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Elvis
11-10-2004, 11:43 AM
Hi everyone,
I had to write to say how chuffed I was to find this site. I stumbled upon it by accident, but I’m glad I did
because now I’m hooked. After reading for a week or so, I decided to order the starter pack. The order arrived
yesterday and I wasted no time, so I will record my first experiences here and hopefully make sense of them
sometime. BTW I’m male, straight, mid-twenties, 5’ 8’’ and about 10.5 stones.
11:00am
– Applied two dabs of TE (one to either side of neck) and used a modest amount of my usual aftershave balm for
cover.
11:40am – Got on a bus and sat 2/3rds of the way to the back. Noticed most of the younger females
sat around my general area, with one girl in particular regularly glancing in my direction.
12:00am – Sat
in a doctor’s waiting room and upon doing so the gorilla in the corner with everything bar LOVE/HATE tattooed
on his hairy knuckles folded his arms and stared at the floor between his feet, never once looking up. Receptionist
appeared flustered and preoccupied.
12:15am – Female doctor looked me in the eyes for a full 3 seconds,
unflinching, glazed and unblinking, seeming to be in a very far away place.
1:00pm – Bought a DVD in a
record shop, the male assistant who took my payment had a weary look and seemed very careful to package my goods
with extraordinary precision. Upon leaving he called me Sir!!! (This does not happen much in the world of Great
British retail without sarcasm let me tell you!)
1:25pm – Girl working in a clothes shop seemed less than
helpful. (That’s the spirit!)
1:50pm – Again out shopping, a 30something lady (very nice) seemed to
be wandering aimlessly, not browsing or doing anything in particular. She crossed my path (quite closely) more than
a few times but never looked at me. Seemed confused.
2:00pm – Same shop, bought some stuff and the woman
at the desk undercharges me. I explain very slowly and clearly that she is wrong (twice) and she still undercharges
me, all the time hastily packaging the goods and never raising her head to make eye contact. On counting my change
she took forever and a day and looked puzzled. Fine, I wasn’t going to argue, so I made a profit.
4:30pm -
Applied one drop of SPMO to wrist and rubbed wrists together.
4:45pm - Came across a male friend and spoke for a
while on the street, he was as normal as ever.
Now, I’m not sure if I believe the –mones were having
an effect on anybody or not because all of the above, in my experience, are run-of-the-mill, everyday occurrences
which happen all the time. However, I’d be grateful to hear from anybody who would pass comment on any of the
above, especially some advice if I’m getting it wrong. Maybe, I was noticing things that weren’t there
because I was ultra-sensitive in watching for a reaction. I’ll keep experimenting with the pack, which you
probably know included:
Bottle TE Unscented
Bottle SPMO
10ml atomiser
3 gel packs (Chikara, TE, SOE)
Tomorrow, I’ll be in a crowded bar full of girls (foreign students…yummy!), but I just hope I
don’t freak anybody out. I’m hoping for a mix that will yield animalistic reactions from the girls. I
read some people on the forum saying some TE with a half pack of Chikara is good fun, so I might try that.
I’ll post my findings later, sorry about the long-winded article guys. Regards.
Great post. As you gain more
experience, you will see these "occurances" occur far more frequently with pheromones than without, and then you
will be sure something is going on.
Snoopy
11-10-2004, 12:18 PM
The stare from the doctor seems
like a pretty solid hit. I've been undercharged as well, when clothes shopping and wearing -mones at the same time.
I was wearing Chikara at the time, and joking around with one of the employees about buying the maniquen, he ended
up giving me 20% off...
You may want to start looking out for OD, it can happen especially when you are
experimenting with lots of different things at the start. Chikara + TE have given me good responses, but the TE's
gotta be done in moderation otherwise I start smelling hints of cat-piss on myself.
Elvis
11-11-2004, 07:00 AM
Thanks for the
replies,
I'm hoping that with continued use I'll learn more how to gauge reactions and separates the 'hits'
from the everyday bollocks. Also, I'll be watchful of the OD limit, that's why I'm going to stick with the 2 dabs
of TE for now but add some gel in incremental quantities to see if it makes a difference. I don't want to go above
the 2 dabs of TE until I understand what's happening.
On the subject of cat's piss, a strange thing happened
this morning. I put on a wool jumper (I hear sniggers...it's very cold here at the moment) and after about an hour
I smell this pungent reek of cat's urine mixed with eau de nether regions coming from my oxters. WTF?!? This is
like 48 hours after I applied the TE. Does this stuff secrete from your pores well after application? I think I read
someone say something similar in a post, but I'm just wondering if this is known as a concrete fact in the -mone
community, since I wouldn't like to stink like that permanently.
Tonight it's definitely 2 dabs TE with half a
gel pack, but I'm still undecided whether to go for the Chikara or the SOE, as I don't know the difference as
regards the scent. Maybe, I'll toss a coin! Heads...Chikara, tails...SOE...and on it's edge...well there's a sign
if I ever saw one, so I'll shove the whole bottle of TE up my xxxx (If across the Atlantic minus one x) and I'll
see what transpires!
Cheers.
Watcher
11-11-2004, 12:15 PM
Percepiton gives less of that cat
pee smell and is much more effective
But a few points in my 7 years of pheromone usage
* the less than
helpful or overhelpfulness
* being undercharged happens a lot or i get offered heavy discounts
* the bus
sceniro happens all over - very regular ie in my case sometimes its guys that get real close (they like to get some
rub off mones that are wofting around - the girls also do the same)
Very good observatoins of a typical day -
keep a daily dairy coming if you feel so inclined - very good.
Pherozen
11-11-2004, 02:49 PM
Very Good post, Nicely organized.
keep us posted
Elvis
11-12-2004, 07:06 AM
Thanks Watcher for the tip about Perception. Maybe I'll give it a try when I make my
next order.
So, last night...OMFG WTF is in these products? Ok pheromones, but I mean...wow!
Last night was my best out in about a month and I attribute at least half of it to the -mones, I'm a natural
sceptic but I'm convinced for sure now.
It all began with the 2
TE dabs on neck as promised with a half pack of SOE gel over neck (front and back), chest, back of shoulders, front
of shoulders, forearms, wrists and face. I had to spread the gel quite thinly to get maximum coverage. I got a bus
to town about 15mins after the app, but didn't notice any reactions from any passengers except one girl two seats
in front who played with her hair. I was a bit concerned about the CP whiff that was emanating from my general
direction, as I could smell it easily however, nobody complained. I met a male friend and had a beer at his pad...he
didn't seem any different than usual. Anyway, we drunk a few more beers and decided to hit the town. At this point
it was 5 full hours after app.
We entered an Irish bar and noticed
the place was dead, but a hot brunette bargirl I was eying a few weeks ago kept passing me quite unnecessarily and
made repeated deliberate attempts/excuses to make eye contact. I thought I'd hang around if only for her. So, just
as I was thinking about making a move some European students came in, about 7 hours after the app. A Polish guy and
girl I knew, 2 or 3 Spaniards and an Italian guy with an Italian female friend who I didn't
know..whoa!
This is where things picked up. The Italian girl came
over to me after about 5 minutes and asked if we had met before (cheesy, but she was absolutely incredible, so like
I was caring) Apparently, we had but I was too blootered to remember. We started talking about Italy and blah blah,
various student crap and before we knew it, we had been gibbering away for an hour, barely exchanging a glance at
anyone else (except the hot bargirl who was still trying to get my attention.)
Next thing it's last orders at the bar so the bouncers herd us through to the disco since
it's licensed until the small hours. So, we continue our relentless babble, all the time getting closer and
closer...and then...touchy feely stuff, arm around shoulder, touching my forearms a lot...asks for my mobile
number...yeeeees! Here I am, a very standard looking guy having the hottest chick in the whole place asking for MY
number!
The bargirl still hadn't given up and didn't do so all
evening, thus I am determined to strike up a conversation with her next time, lest lightning strike me dead and burn
my scrotum to a bag of coal. ALL the guys/girls kept looking in our direction. I even had guys twice my size who
could squash me with a fart, saying "excuse me, can I pass?” and "Alright? Howz it going, man? I didn't even
know who they were, but they were all like smiling and patting my shoulder as they passed and stuff. What an ego
trip!
One guy came up and said, "Is that your girlfriend? You're
a lucky bxxxxxx". I said "no, no...we're not together." He looked genuinely surprised, so I said, "feel free to
make a move if you like, it's none of my business." He says, "Nah, I wouldn't stand a chance, pal", and walks off
despondently!" Then a young blonde girl came up and started rubbing her bits all down the front of me, grabbing me
right in front of my target. She says, "Can you please get my coat for me?" I'm embarrassed in front of the Italian
girl (so nice BTW...5'3'', Mediterranean eyes, skin, hair, etc, perfect teeth, smile, petite with all the curves
in the right places and in proportion, nice person too), "I'm sorry but I'm with my friend" I reply. Crap, but I
didn't know what else to say...normally I'd be like, "Certainly sweetheart", or something equally cheesified, but
not at this moment in time.
After the blonde left another blonde I
didn't know arrived on the scene, clearly under the influence of booze, and started berating me quite publicly
about how I should take more care of my woman and don't I realise that she if fxxxxxx gorgeous BTW. She seemed
genuinely upset and even angry. I've never met or even seen her before, I certainly didn't give her any cause to
behave like this. What's more, I told her what I told the guy that we weren't together, but she didn't listen and
just continued ranting and raving...bouncing around the dance floor like she was one of The Bee Gee's or something.
My target seemed to find this all quite amusing (as I did) so, we
just laughed together. All in all we spoke for about 3 hours solid. When the disco finished, the bouncers were extra
friendly to us.
On the way the Italian guy
decided to steal a flag from a scaffolding for his bedroom wall...just as a policeman comes around the
corner...hahahaaaa! His English was good but the policeman's accent was difficult so, I got involved and said,
"What's the big deal? It's only a flag." The pm says, "Shut it you, I'm not talking to you!". So, I say,"Yes, but
I'm talking to you, what's more I'm asking you a question." The whole time the Italian girl is holding on to me
like something bad is going to happen. I liked that, hehe. The pm says, "Look, do you want to get yourself into
trouble?" He was way too aggresive. I replied, "What you gonna do, arrest me for what exactly?, what crime have
I committed???" This completely shut him up and believe this, he backs down! I have never been like
this with a policeman before, in this country they are well respected in the community and I never give them a hard
time because it's a tough job, but this guy acted like The Incredible Hulk on steroids and I felt that I could (and
should) make him back down, even though he was a man of the law and could probably beat me to a
pulp.
After this episode ended (the Italian guy got to keep the
flag!), she invited me back to her flat for a spliff. Unfortunately her flatmates came with us, but they were
treating me like royalty anyway so I could handle that. So, we had a laugh for another hour or so and I went home
quite content. This girl says she's going to phone me sometime (well, we'll see) but check this out...she's a
nurse!
Sorry 'bout the long post again, but I just have to record
this and get it out of my system. Any doubts I had before about pheromones are now consigned to the history books.
When an average guy holds the attention of the hottest girl at the dance for 3 full hours and then gets her number
without trying at all, It's time to take notice. My best period was around 8-9 hours after app. I'm hooked for
good. The thing I love is the ego trip, but I don't want to hurt anybody or play jiggery-pokery with their feelings
(or mine) so I'll have to be careful. What can I say...I felt like James Bond on cocaine, indestructible
even.
Snoopy
11-12-2004, 08:27 AM
That's AWESOME man. I'm glad to
hear about your exciting reaction. For myself, it's been a few months since I've been using -mones and I haven't
had anything close to that crazy yet! Hopefully soon I will :)
Elvis
11-12-2004, 09:47 AM
I forgot to mention;
immediately after coming out of the shower I sprayed on some bog standard anti-perspirant...cheap stuff with very
little scent, but effective for keeping you dry. I then put talcum/baby powder on my 'pits, being careful not to
apply any phero's to that area in case of some nasty chemical reactions. That's about it really. Didn't
specifically look for hits, just tried to enjoy myself. I'm gonna try that combo again soon when I get a good
opportunity.
Where did you spray your anti
perspirant, and did you put mones in that area?
Thanks
Elvis
11-12-2004, 10:31 AM
Anti-perspirant on 'pits,
chest, back, scrot (just in case), abdominal area. I used short bursts and kept it to a minimum. 'Mones on chest
(TE,SOE...some might have been spread to upper abdominal area), other areas 'mone free.
hmmm..... I wonder if that had
anything to do with your results continuing to occur so long after your initial application.
Elvis
11-12-2004, 11:07 AM
Could be bjf, next time I
might try altering the time between app and exposure to a target. Say, like an hour after app when the smells are
quite strong and fresh. That way I'd know if time had something to do with it. I suppose there could be other
variables but I'm struggling to think at the moment. Have you heard of time being a major factor?
DrSmellThis
11-12-2004, 11:26 AM
Last night I got a free
Thai curry dinner from a waitress (one dab Edge, dab A1, 1 spray Chikara).
I'd advise to just dab the
Chikara from the gel pack instead of using a half pack. That stuff is very strong, and an OD reaction or two has
been reported with that much.
You might end up being one of those that can't wear much -none, or maybe you were
expecting things to happen and telegraphed that. Too early to tell.
kryptogram
11-12-2004, 11:32 AM
I'd
advise to just dab the Chikara from the gel pack instead of using a half pack. That stuff is very strong, and an OD
reaction or two has been reported with that much.
That's what I am finding -
Elvis
11-12-2004, 11:48 AM
[QUOTE=
You might end up
being one of those that can't wear much -none.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry Doc. Not sure I understand. Does this mean if I
continue to use the gel packs in such quantities I won't be able to tolerate much 'none?
Would this apply for SOE
as well as Chikara?
Oh, Well done with the curry thing btw! Nice one.
Thanks for the comments folks, I'll
watch out for gel overload if that's the case.
Could be bjf, next
time I might try altering the time between app and exposure to a target. Say, like an hour after app when the smells
are quite strong and fresh. That way I'd know if time had something to do with it. I suppose there could be other
variables but I'm struggling to think at the moment. Have you heard of time being a major
factor?
Time is usually our enemy with respect to the effectiveness of your
application.
Conversions happen on the skin due to bacteria (your antiperspirent may have helped slow these
down).
Also many of the molecules have gradually sunk into your skin or flew off of your skin and into the
air (and hopefully your targets nose).
The strong hits you were getting at 9 hours were pretty good,
especially because you were wearing under clothing in some cases, and you wore an average amount (not an od
amount).
If I were you, I'd keep doing what I was doing. If the results change, then we can try and help
you figure out why.
DrSmellThis
11-12-2004, 12:08 PM
I'm sorry
Doc. Not sure I understand. Does this mean if I continue to use the gel packs in such quantities I won't be able to
tolerate much 'none?
Would this apply for SOE as well as Chikara?
Oh, Well done with the curry thing btw! Nice
one.
Thanks for the comments folks, I'll watch out for gel overload if that's the case.Your
intimidation reactions seemed like a mild OD, suggesting maybe you don't need much -none, since you werent using
much.
Elvis
11-12-2004, 12:08 PM
Thanks bjf, that sounds like
reasonable advice. Maybe I'll experiment with lower doses of gel if I find this combo is no longer working for me.
I may try with or without anti-perspirant as well at some point to see if it makes a difference time-wise. Just
briefly to everyone who replied, what's your favourite potions to work with? Just curious...to peruse some possible
future purchases.
Elvis
11-12-2004, 12:11 PM
Thanks doc...do you mind me
calling you that? Just say if I offend.
DrSmellThis
11-12-2004, 12:16 PM
I've been called worse. :)
Thanks bjf, that
sounds like reasonable advice. Maybe I'll experiment with lower doses of gel if I find this combo is no longer
working for me. I may try with or without anti-perspirant as well at some point to see if it makes a difference
time-wise. Just briefly to everyone who replied, what's your favourite potions to work with? Just curious...to
peruse some possible future purchases.
Celtic, to make it easier on yourself, the best thing to
do is to keep testing a mix that you like, doing exactly the same thing, until you know it works everytime
out.
Don't switch up so fast. Move to something else if this stops working, or if you've proven to
yourself it works everytime.
Another thing: Be sure to write down everything you do and keep a log of the
results. If you get into this habit, you'll be able to draw a lot of conclusions once you have a lot of data.
Elvis
11-12-2004, 12:24 PM
Will do bjf, thanks.
Watcher
11-12-2004, 01:20 PM
Vedry good post celtic - i should
be more speific - lets jus say every day is a big adventure with this stuff.
Havent had any police run ins
myself - but have had a few big blokes try it on (it helps now im a bulked up type as well not to big but all muscle
and minimal body fat) and the pheromones plus some smart talking skills helps _+ an understanding of human behaviour
etc.
Take yesterday for example at one point i had 4 trying to get my attention. Was talking with 2 who were
doing their best to talk the most to get my attention, another one was someone i know as an aquiatnce she kept
walking past (unnecessary of course) and then there was the fourth girl who knows about my phreomone usage doing her
usuall thing and watching while talking to a male friend of mine.
MOBLEYC57
11-12-2004, 03:04 PM
Take yesterday
for example at one point i had 4 trying to get my attention. Was talking with 2 who were doing their best to talk
the most to get my attention, another one was someone i know as an aquiatnce she kept walking past (unnecessary of
course) and then there was the fourth girl who knows about my phreomone usage doing her usuall thing and watching
while talking to a male friend of mine.
:type: Was that with your 4-5 sprays of Perception, Watcher?
:blink:
Way to go, CELTICyukyBOY! :box:
Elvis
11-12-2004, 05:40 PM
Thanks to all who
participated in my first thread. Overall, I'm fair pleased with the products I received and I'm looking forward to
learning more...love this forum already. Cheers!
Watcher
11-13-2004, 02:38 AM
3 sprays i think (2 that i had put
on in the morning and the lunch refresher dose) no im finding that a little less seems to be working (its very hot
here so to avoid to much associated sweating ive dumbed down the perception applicaiton)
MOBLEYC57
11-13-2004, 07:17 AM
3 sprays i think
(2 that i had put on in the morning and the lunch refresher dose) no im finding that a little less seems to be
working (its very hot here so to avoid to much associated sweating ive dumbed down the perception
applicaiton)
:sick: Hmmmmm! Sounds like the heat = less, and cold =
more theory that someone brought up is becoming solid. :blink:
Thanks, Signor Watcher! :wave:
Knuuttipukki
11-13-2004, 07:58 AM
I put on 1 dab ppa and 1/2
pack of chikara gel before I went to do my daily workout...just in case there would be any women in the gym.
Unfortunately there was only men doing their workout. :frustrate
However...they were all very friendly so it
may have something to do with mones. Yea...gimme some respect I deserve...:D
Elvis
11-13-2004, 08:54 AM
Sounds like
the heat = less, and cold = more theory that someone brought up is
becoming solid.
With reference to this Mobleyc, my idea is that maybe temperature acts on the 'mones
the same way as it affects many things.
What if at lower temperatures, the 'mones are less active, less easily
dissipated into the atmosphere, but survive longer...like a slow mild release over many, many hours.
Maybe in
warm, humid conditions the 'mones are very active, enjoying the heat that gives them more energy. The result would
be a much more explosive release but over a much shorter period of time.
Just a theory. I'm thinking about how
a refrigerator preserves food. Do you know of any good threads about temperature? I think I'll try a search. The
weather is cold here often, so this could be extremely important.
Celtic, your right.
Heat
speeds up the dispersing process.
CptKipling
11-13-2004, 10:24 AM
Good posts Celtic.
From
what I gleaned from skimming, you benifited from lots of SOE with a little TE. If this is the case something like
Perception may be ideal for you.
RE the low temps. issue: be careful. You might be tempted to wear a lot more
but don't; you will find that when you get into warmer temps inside your pheros will almost explode into the
atmosphere. Also be careful about buildup on scarfs and other clothing.
MOBLEYC57
11-13-2004, 04:20 PM
With reference
to this Mobleyc, my idea is that maybe temperature acts on the 'mones the same way as it affects many things.
What if at lower temperatures, the 'mones are less active, less easily dissipated into the atmosphere, but
survive longer...like a slow mild release over many, many hours.
Maybe in warm, humid conditions the 'mones are
very active, enjoying the heat that gives them more energy. The result would be a much more explosive release but
over a much shorter period of time.
Just a theory. I'm thinking about how a refrigerator preserves food. Do you
know of any good threads about temperature? I think I'll try a search. The weather is cold here often, so this
could be extremely important.Celtic, yup, that's pretty much what I was meaning ... I haven't really seen
any threads about heat itself, but every now and then, someone brings up the heat factor.
Watcher
11-14-2004, 02:34 AM
Well i am using perception in 30c
+ days and high activity and outdoors and the slow realise formula on my skin is still active after about 10 hours
as the makers claim to have it be - so if youre finding evaporation or sweating issue switch to less skin based
application or get perception - put it on youre hair on youre head for widespread dispersal from air currents (a
little trick) and clothing applicatoin ie cotton shirts etc.
Dont be tempted to overdose either as it can be
made 10 times worse.
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