View Full Version : Somebody made a good point about this
lilplaya
10-25-2004, 04:15 AM
I was talking to someone and he broung up a good point about pheromones. We start talking about girls as usual
nothing wrong with that. But then he said. A bro have you heard about these things they selling called pheromones.
Of course I had to play kind of dumb and said pheromones yea I heard of them before that bee's use to attract other
ones.
He was like now they are selling pheromones to attract humans to other humans. I was like oh really
have you tried any. He said no and I probley never will. He said come on bro pheromones to attract humans to other
humans you got to be kidding me.
Then he said they are selling pheromones for like 50$ what kind of bull is
that. If they really worked why the hell would they sell it so cheap, pheromones would cost millons to get your
hands on a bottle if they really worked.
He said some more but I just wanted to get the main point across of
what he was trying to say. So you know after hearing that I thought that he did make a good point with that. And was
wanting to know some of you guys opinons on that.
Pancho1188
10-25-2004, 04:57 AM
Are you asking why they
only (ha, ha...I use the term ironically as I'm cheap and usually think, "Wow, that's a lot for a small
bottle of liquid.") sell them for ~$50 a bottle if they work so well? I'll give you many reasons:
1. Just as
your friend mentioned, not everyone is convinced they work. If they did work for everyone all the time in any
situation, of course the demand would go up and so would the price.
2. Competition. Bruce isn't the only guy
selling them, so if he sold them at $200 and someone else could make and sell them cheaper, they could cut in on
Bruce's business.
3. You naturally produce pheromones. Technically, you can get them for free. The price is not
showering, and we know how well that comes off in today's society. Therefore, some people prefer to shower and
then replace their -mones with synthetics instead of walking around with the 'funk'.
4. There's more to
attracting people than -mones. You have to have something to back it up, so it's not a magical love potion.
5.
It's different for everyone. Since not one thing works in every situation, you have to buy many different products
to see what was right for you. If every bottle was $200 and you had to make a choice as to which one would
definitely work for you, you'd have a lot of risk in making that purchase.
6. Size. You're paying $50 for
a 10 ml bottle (estimates). Sure, -mones would cost $200 if they put them in a 50 ml bottle, wouldn't they?
However, they're a lot easier to sell in smaller sizes so the consumer can mix and match, experiment, test,
etc.
Those are just six good reasons. I'm sure there are more, but I hope that answers your question.
PR
belgareth
10-25-2004, 05:18 AM
It's really simple, Bruce and
everybody else charges whatever the market will bear. If they were charging millions for pheromones nobody would buy
them. They charge a price people will pay and they can make a profit on them.
Pancho1188
10-25-2004, 07:16 AM
It's really
simple, Bruce and everybody else charges whatever the market will bear. If they were charging millions for
pheromones nobody would buy them. They charge a price people will pay and they can make a profit on
them.What he was saying, though, is that if they really did magically attract women all of the time,
you could charge whatever you wanted to because people would pay anything to have them (high demand). In that sense,
it is true. However, since they don't work like that, you have to be more reasonable with the price. That's why I
listed all of the factors because even in my scenario (love potion), competitors would eventually cut in and lower
the price.
The best example of pricing strategies: Laser eye surgery.
Laser eye surgery takes about 10
seconds and probably costs doctors a few dollars to do (not sure how much the machine costs, but if you do it on ten
thousand people, I'm sure the economies of scale minimalizes the cost per patient...and even if the doctor charged
$100/minute for his time, you'd still only be down $200 for the two-minute procedure). However, they still charge
$2,000 for it. Why? No one will pay less because they think they're getting bad surgery. No one is willing to pay
less for it because it's too big of a gamble on your sight. The eye doctors came up with one solution: charge that
amount but give everyone coupons so it's like you're getting something worth $2,000 for less. Look for
Christmas 50% off specials during the holidays.
Moral of the story: Companies that charge less give the
impression that the results aren't as good. What LP's friend was saying is that because -mones are cheap (I still
feel my wallet getting lighter, though...don't know what he's talking about ;)), they must not be as effective as
they claim.
*sigh* That's consumer psychology for you. I'm more of a, "It's cheap? It does the same thing as
expensive stuff? I'll take it!" kind of guy myself. :thumbsup:
Chemo (BDC Concepts)
10-25-2004, 10:51 AM
That's
it...Perception is going up to $250
:)
Pancho1188
10-25-2004, 11:24 AM
See? Now you know it
works because it's expensive! :thumbsup:
:rofl:
lifetransform
10-25-2004, 01:26 PM
That's it...Perception is going up to $250
:)
dang it! haha :blink:
MOBLEYC57
10-25-2004, 06:49 PM
That's it...Perception is going up to $250
Dangit you little player! See what you've
done?:frustrate
Back in the caveman days, there was a caveman named Ugh. Ugh hung out with Ugh-moodo ...
Ugh-moodo had a hard time believing that schitt stunk. He said, "Ugh, if shcitt stinks, why don't we smell it all
the time?" Ugh thought about it for a minute, let out a gahross and loud fart that was smellier than Godzilla poot.
Ugh-moodo got wind of it, and halled as$. He came back a day later, and Ugh smiled, and asked, "Ya still smell it?"
"No" Ugh-moodo answered. Ugh smiled and said, "there you go!" The moral of this story ya little player, is ... if
YOU believe in something, don't let anyone else change your thinking, YOU change your thinking.:drunk:
Pancho1188
10-26-2004, 04:47 AM
I think you just wanted to
tell that story, Mobes...Nice one, by the way... :)
Daemon45
10-26-2004, 10:09 AM
What he was
saying, though, is that if they really did magically attract women all of the time, you could charge whatever
you wanted to because people would pay anything to have them (high demand). In that sense, it is true. However,
since they don't work like that, you have to be more reasonable with the price. That's why I listed all of the
factors because even in my scenario (love potion), competitors would eventually cut in and lower the price.
The best example of pricing strategies: Laser eye surgery.
Laser eye surgery takes about 10 seconds and
probably costs doctors a few dollars to do (not sure how much the machine costs, but if you do it on ten thousand
people, I'm sure the economies of scale minimalizes the cost per patient...and even if the doctor charged
$100/minute for his time, you'd still only be down $200 for the two-minute procedure). However, they still charge
$2,000 for it. Why? No one will pay less because they think they're getting bad surgery. No one is willing to pay
less for it because it's too big of a gamble on your sight. The eye doctors came up with one solution: charge that
amount but give everyone coupons so it's like you're getting something worth $2,000 for less. Look for
Christmas 50% off specials during the holidays.
Moral of the story: Companies that charge less give the
impression that the results aren't as good. What LP's friend was saying is that because -mones are cheap (I still
feel my wallet getting lighter, though...don't know what he's talking about ;)), they must not be as effective as
they claim.
*sigh* That's consumer psychology for you. I'm more of a, "It's cheap? It does the same thing as
expensive stuff? I'll take it!" kind of guy myself. :thumbsup:
I would cut that quote down, but I want to
reference most of it. I'll take the last bit first - I'm the same way, Pancho. I'm one of those guys that really
doesn't care about brand-name, as long as it works. However, in a situation where I know nothing about a
product, I'll probably go with the brand-name just to be safe.
The consumer psychology thing is, I think, an
unfortunate side-effect of popular culture. A few guys over in England wanted to do a study on exactly that, so they
went and bought one of the most popular and expensive fragrances out at the time (something by Calvin Klein, I
think), rebottled it, and tried to sell it on the street very cheap (like, five pounds - which comes out to about
eight or nine dollars) to some really posh ladies that had just come out of a store, gossiping about how wonderful
this CK stuff was. They smelt the rebottled perfume and proclaimed it awful stuff.
I didn't know about that
laser surgery thing... if I see the discounts I might even be able to convince my father to let me get it.
And
actually, if 'mones really were a magical love potion and cheap to produce, prices would eventually come way, way
down simply because of competition. For example, this love potion is priced at $1,000 a bottle, but only costs $1 to
produce. Both merchant A and Bruce have the ability to produce said potion. If Bruce all of a sudden starts charging
only $800 a bottle, merchant A is forced to lower his prices, possibly to undercut Bruce, who in turn undercuts
merchant A, etc, etc... 'til they're both selling at the minimum profit they're willing to make.
Business is
a fun thing.
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