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fran1
10-19-2004, 09:48 PM
I was

wearing SOE yesterday in a meeting with a good account that I first met yesterday.
He get very angry and I think

that I almost lost the account, he was feeling nervous and angry.
I set another appoinment tomorrow in the

afternoon, please tell me if it is possible to wear SOE again or not to wear it.
Let me tell you that this guy is

very arrogant and for the first time (her secretaty told me) that somebody put him nervous and angry so fast without

any effort, in other words he not let me down like other people he always do.
The thing that I want his account

tell me what will work the best for me. I dont want to lost this account.
He told me that tomorrow he will speak

with me, but I feel that he is taking time to think how to let me down too and dont to give me the account like

revenge or something.
I need advice now!!!!!!!!
I wear or not wear SOE?
Regards

Mone Latte
10-19-2004, 10:18 PM
I was wearing SOE(gelpack

scented) a lot during my business meet-ups and dealings late last year and early this year.

The results seems to

be favourable virtually all the time.

They are more relaxed and acceptable to ideas. They listen more to me

too.

Usually without SOE, I'm the one doing most of the listening, but with SOE it is almost fair game.

I

met a few business people who are like what you described. This should not be a problem. They only need more time

for you to warm up to.

What I do with such people is listen to them a lot at the start and talk in terms of

their interest instead of mine first.

From there then just let SOE do the rest of the work :)

Indigo
10-19-2004, 11:48 PM
Hello,

how much SOE did you

apply?

Regards

Indigo

Mone Latte
10-19-2004, 11:52 PM
Hi Indigo

If you are

asking me... I was using abt half pack of SOE... mainly on my forearm, neck and chest...

I forgot to mention

that at that time I also put one dab per back of ear of PI/m unscented.

Indigo
10-20-2004, 12:03 AM
Well, actually I aked you both.

Although I know that nol is not as dangerous as none regarding OD effects but IMO you can also overdo it! Beyond

that you still have -rone in SOE. Too much of that might be a problem too!

belgareth
10-20-2004, 02:44 AM
Fran1 has reported strange

reactions that we wouldn't expect from the mones he was wearing in the past. OD is possible but maybe there is a

social context that we are missing here as well.

Aren't you in the Middle East somewhere, Fran? Could the way

mones make others feel around you be causing them some type of social distress? I don't know, I'm guessing here

but nothing you try seems to work for you the way it does for others.

fran1
10-20-2004, 11:26 AM
I am here in the USA, and the

client if from New york, His backgroun is from Russia.
I am half latin and european.
Well I put soe in mine

wrist 2 times, my neck 2 times thats all, very small quantity.
The thing here that I will wear SOE again with

this guy, he really is a piece of s.......
but I will try to cacth his account.

fran1
10-20-2004, 07:39 PM
Well I already finish the meeting

in the morning and I wear the SOE and I did not OD never.
But the guy really get more angry make me wait long

time and he told me that he want to work with me, but his way, he do not sign anything and behave very

stupid.
Well the curious thing here was this, when he saw me today in the morning in his office without his

glasses, he was very nice and gently but then he put his glasses and he made a expression like he recognized me and

get mad, he transform himself.
Then we disscuss the agreement and I said goodbye. In his building is a cafeteria

and I order a coffee, then I saw him again without his glasses and again he even smile to me and say hello, but then

he put his glasses back and made up an angry face and run from my pressence, avoiding look at my eyes.
Strange

but in some way is he was scare he deserve it. I think he dont want it to do business with me from the begining.

fran1
10-21-2004, 11:13 AM
anyone has the glasses problem?

Pancho1188
10-21-2004, 11:34 AM
Two solutions:

1. He just

hates you. Without his glasses, he doesn't recognize you.

Assuming he doesn't have a reason to not like

you:

2. That's what they call a 'trigger' in psychology. Apparently, he was mad when you first met or you

made him mad or something. At any rate, he apparently associates you with being mad and seeing you puts him in a

bad mood. The reason seeing you without his glasses has him still happy is that you need the exact trigger

to cause the effect. Hence, a blurry image will not work, but a clear view of you will trigger his unhappiness.




I don't think it's -mone related. The glasses make it visual, not olfactory. People who are in a bad mood

because of you are going to be mad with or without -mones. Although -mones may make a person feel better in

general, if he doesn't like you (or associates you with bad things), it's hard to counteract that.

The only

way I know how to win over someone like that is to mirror his body language to develop rapport. It might alleviate

these problems a little.

jollysnowdevil
10-21-2004, 09:02 PM
i've been using SOE for

business in the new york area lately with very good results. i use about 1/3 to 1/4 packet. on my wrists and right

under my ears. i have been getting favorable results consistently.
i dont think it's the mones at all. i

think the guy just has a harsh personality. i've met that type before many times, sometime u can win, sometimes u

can't. remember you are in New York City!! it's a dog eat dog world. maybe he is only acting that way trying to

resist being opened up by the mones.
from my positive experiences i say stay with the SOE. maybe go a bit

lighter. Good luck