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CptKipling
09-28-2004, 07:16 PM
Ok guys, you may
have read me "talking" about this, and since I have now restarted this fairly large project I thought I would start
a thread on it.
My goals in making this are:
Looking at an idividual mix or application, I aim
to create
a convenient method of recording hits
an easy way to record day by day (or
situation by situation) results
a way to quantify, compare and analyse results and hits
a method of
recording and analysing different application methods and points (does spreading it out help? etc.)
a way to
identify the best location for the mix/application
a method to identifying the optimum dosage; overall and on a
location by location basis (e.g wearing 0.1 ml while clubbing got the best results, but you need only 0.06 ml to
reach the optimum dose for restaurant situation)
the period of effectivness of the mix/application
the
optimum period to receive hits (e.g 1 hour after application)
2. Looking at pheromone use in general, I aim
to address the following questions:
the optimum dose of -none, -nol, and -rone when applied
individually
the effects resultsing from various ratios of pheromones when applied together
do some
pheromones work better in some application points?
high concentrations and low doses or low concentration and
high doses?
Have I missed anything? What else would be useful?
Questions?
These are some screen
caps of it as it is now (very rough), there is a general lack of space to write notes on the days usage at the
moment:
- Carriers
- Sources (labs
have different purification processes)
Looks exciting, though.
eric_pelletier_tw
09-28-2004, 08:22 PM
you should cout ppl
density aswell no? You may be clubbing or in the metro but density varys [dance flore density is difrent than at
tables or bar... for example ] or [rush hours & at midnight in the met]
just a sugesion ...
DrSmellThis
09-28-2004, 10:58 PM
Admirable project. One major
issue is anticipated number of data points to get meaningful results: You have to keep it simple to get enough.
ismellgood
09-29-2004, 01:38 PM
I suggest including a base
rate: For several days, apply no pheromones, and record your unenhanced number of "hits".
I also suggest
categories of "hits", ranging from the ambiguous (looking at you) to the unambiguous (intercourse).
CptKipling
09-29-2004, 04:12 PM
Thanks for the feedback so far
guys.
bjf,
Good idea. Carriers would have to be limited to combo applications, as it gets complicated with
mixes.
eric,
Yes I think that needs addressing, not as easy as it sounds though.
Doc,
Thanks. Yeah one of the big problems is keeping it simple and yet accurate.
ismellgood,
That would be
up to the user, but a good suggestion none the less. I could be interesting to see what aspects of interaction are
changed the most (passive, active, social) by certain pheros/phero ratios.
CptKipling
09-29-2004, 04:43 PM
Yeah that's a given ;)
Cheers anyway
SEA Agent
01-06-2005, 09:57 AM
Hi,
Not to dig up old
threads...but this I think would be of interest to newbies like me. So what happened to the project or
progress/results or is it been abandone???
Cheers
CptKipling
01-06-2005, 10:03 AM
Not at all, I've just been
busy with other things in the Pherolibrary. Once I get the Pherolibrary up to a good standard I'll get back to work
on it.
SEA Agent
01-06-2005, 10:09 AM
Not at all,
I've just been busy with other things in the Pherolibrary. Once I get the Pherolibrary up to a good standard I'll
get back to work on it.
Hi Cpt,
Cool looking forward to it. Keep up the good job... :)
Sir Louis
01-08-2005, 05:13 AM
Ok guys, you
may have read me "talking" about this, and since I have now restarted this fairly large project I thought I would
start a thread on it.
My goals in making this are:
Looking at an idividual mix or
application, I aim to create
a convenient method of recording hits
an easy way to
record day by day (or situation by situation) results
a way to quantify, compare and analyse results and
hits
a method of recording and analysing different application methods and points (does spreading it out help?
etc.)
a way to identify the best location for the mix/application
a method to identifying the optimum
dosage; overall and on a location by location basis (e.g wearing 0.1 ml while clubbing got the best results, but you
need only 0.06 ml to reach the optimum dose for restaurant situation)
the period of effectivness of the
mix/application
the optimum period to receive hits (e.g 1 hour after application)
2. Looking at
pheromone use in general, I aim to address the following questions:
the optimum dose of -none, -nol,
and -rone when applied individually
the effects resultsing from various ratios of pheromones when applied
together
do some pheromones work better in some application points?
high concentrations and low doses or
low concentration and high doses?
Have I missed anything? What else would be useful?
Questions?
These are some screan caps of it as it is now (very rough), there is a general lack of space
to write notes on the days usage at the moment:
Well thought-out, but unnecessary. Ratios are arbitrary,
I always use relatively low levels of -none; -nol -rone can be more liberal. Androstenone is a steroid and women and
men who have increased testosterone levels tend to respond positively. Period. I'd hazard a guess reponses to -nol
and -rone are the same way, though using these two alone is "safer". Adding -none to -nol and -rone will cause a
negative response in males and females who have high estrogen levels.
I've observed this consistently.
Until research scientists find a different pathway, the question we're stuck with is how can you spot someone with
higher testosterone levels?
Sir Louis:
Is that what it is?
High t-levels that cause people to react positively to none? That does seem to jive some?
Can you explain
how you arrived at this conclusion, and how you knew the people had higher t-levels (or was this a study someone
else did?
Also, there are ways to tell who has higher t-levels..........since you are like hetero and a guy,
i will tell you with women it is rounded shoulders I think (jvk spoke about the signs at one point) and there is a
finger length correlation.
Sir Louis
01-08-2005, 07:02 PM
Is that what it is?
High t-levels that cause people to react positively to none? That does seem to jive some?
Can you explain
how you arrived at this conclusion, and how you knew the people had higher t-levels (or was this a study someone
else did?
I don't. Over years of using -none containing products and observing reactions, almost every
sexual "hit" I've received have been from athletic, competitive women. To date, and I wear pheromone products
every day, I have never observed a "beta" male or female ("breeder" type) respond in a positive manner to -none,
and I've noticed only passable -nol and -rone responses.
Also, there are ways to tell who has higher
t-levels..........since you are like hetero and a guy, i will tell you with women it is rounded shoulders I think
(jvk spoke about the signs at one point) and there is a finger length correlation.
Interesting, can you
explain further?
Elvis
01-09-2005, 01:18 AM
Cap, this is great. Have you taken
the weather conditions into consideration? Good work!
SirAngel
01-09-2005, 02:02 AM
Good point Elvis. At least the
Temperature should be important and maby humidity...
I don't. Over years
of using -none containing products and observing reactions, almost every sexual "hit" I've received have been from
athletic, competitive women. To date, and I wear pheromone products every day, I have never observed a "beta" male
or female ("breeder" type) respond in a positive manner to -none, and I've noticed only passable -nol and -rone
responses.
Interesting, can you explain
further?
FINGERS:
http://human-nature.com/nibbs/02/manning.html
http://love
-scent.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9591
PHYSICAL
TRAITS:
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100041&highlight=masculinized#post100041
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" Women's sensitivity to -rone, and therefore their response to it, will vary with levels of hormones. The
trick is to avoid having too much of it most of the time. Too much for a more feminine heterosexual woman, might not
be too much for a more masculine heterosexual woman. I hope we hear of some results in this regard. BTW, there's
nothing wrong with more masculine heterosexual woman; they can be much more fun because they tend to be a bit more
aggressive, and also tend to have two peaks in their drive: one at ovulation, another just before their period
starts. Pay attention to body type: a more masculinized heterosexual woman will show signs of slightly broader
shoulder width (very slightly), less fat distribution in the hips, thighs, and butt, and have smaller breasts--all
due to more testosterone and less estrogen. The tendency also is for these women to be 5'5'' plus rather than the
shorter profile of women with more estrogen. All of the preceeding is based on my own experience, but follows the
biological facts (progesterone before the start of menses can have effects like testosterone in women). I'm certain
that other Forum members can attest to the differences in body type that correlate with sexual behavior. If not, it
should be fun for others to learn about such differences. But, watch out for large, thick-waisted women; a more
masculinized extreme. They're less likely to like guys." JVK
Friendly1
01-09-2005, 11:11 PM
I don't. Over
years of using -none containing products and observing reactions, almost every sexual "hit" I've received have been
from athletic, competitive women. To date, and I wear pheromone products every day, I have never observed a "beta"
male or female ("breeder" type) respond in a positive manner to -none, and I've noticed only passable -nol and
-rone responses.
That is very strange. There are days when I cannot seem to get the fat women off of me
when I wear lots of Androstenone. Of course, some of them are very aggressive sexually anyway.
Some older women
respond poorly to my strong Androstenone applications, but that may be due more to my personality. I am one of
those guys who says something without realizing that people may perceive it in an entirely different way from me.
By the time I realize I have committed a faux pas, it's too late. Women closer to my age and older seem more prone
to react negatively than the younger ones.
CptKipling
01-10-2005, 08:51 AM
I think it's true that -none
tends to get more aggressive women excited, but I don't think that that's the end of the story.
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