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belgareth
09-09-2004, 01:11 PM
It's kind of hard to believe that Florida will get hit

again.

Hurricane Ivan

Roars Toward Jamaica


By HAROLD QUASH, Associated Press Writer





ST. GEORGE'S, Grenada - Hurricane Ivan intensified Thursday,

heading straight for Jamaica and possibly Florida with 160 mph winds after it killed at least 20 people while

pummeling Grenada, Barbados and other islands. Foreigners began fleeing Jamaica, and U.S. officials ordered people

to evacuate the Florida Keys.

Widespread looting erupted in St.

George's, Grenada's capital, and dazed survivors picked through debris and tried to salvage remnants left by the

storm. An Associated Press reporter watched people taking televisions and shopping carts of food from warehouses.



Troops from other Caribbean nations were on the way to help restore

order in Grenada, where the country's police commissioner said every police station was damaged.



The most powerful hurricane to hit the Caribbean in 10 years damaged

90 percent of the homes in Grenada, killing 13 people there, and destroyed a 17th century stone prison that left

criminals on the loose, officials said.

Ivan was expected to reach

Jamaica by Friday and Cuba by the weekend, the U.S. National Hurricane Center (news - web sites) in Miami said.



Tourists and residents also were told to evacuate the Florida Keys

because Ivan could hit the island chain by Sunday. It was the third evacuation ordered there in a month, following

Hurricane Charley and hard on the heels of Hurricane Frances.

Hurricane Ivan strengthened early Thursday to become a Category 5 on a scale of 5. It packed sustained winds

of 160 mph with higher gusts as it passed north of the Dutch Caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao.



Four children also drowned after they were swept into the sea from a

beach in Santo Domingo, capital of the Dominican Republic, nearly

"The children were in front of the sea when it seems a gigantic wave dragged them into the Caribbean Sea,"

said Jose Luis German, a spokesman for the National Emergency Commission. Authorities there closed part of the

seaside Malecon drive, where massive waves washed over the road.

Jamaican leader P.J. Patterson urged his people to pray.

"We

have to prepare for the worst case scenario. Let us pray for God's care," Patterson said Wednesday night. "This is

a time that we must demonstrate that we are indeed our brothers' and sisters' keeper."



Amy White, a 29-year-old American living in Jamaica, was planning to

fly out of the island Thursday morning for her parents' house in Monroe, N.J.

"They got worried so they said they wanted me to come home," said White, a marketing manager for a

clothing apparel company in Kingston, the Jamaican capital. "I've never been in a hurricane like this before. I

feel like it's fate so I'm gonna go."

At Kingston's international

airport, dozens of foreigners lined up to get off the island.

"We

were going to stick it out but the company I work for told everybody to evacuate," said Dennis Hennessey, 39, a

building contractor from Essex Junction, Vt., who was helping build the new U.S. Embassy in Kingston.



"They say Jamaica is a blessed place, and I hope it is," he said.



On Tuesday, Ivan pummeled Grenada, Barbados and other southern

islands and killed three people in Barbados, Tobago and Venezuela.

Details on the extent of the death and destruction in Grenada did not emerge until Wednesday because

the storm cut all communications with the country of 100,000 people, and halted radio transmissions on the island.



"We are terribly devastated ... It's beyond imagination,"

Grenada's Prime Minister Keith Mitchell told his people and the world on Wednesday — from aboard a British Royal

Navy vessel that rushed to the rescue.

The United States declared

Grenada a disaster area, allowing the immediate release of $50,000 for emergency relief.



"This is just a jump start," said spokesman Jose Fuentes of the U.S.

Agency for International Development in Washington, which has four members on the ground in Grenada. "As soon as the

initial assessment is done we'll be sending more aid."

British

Royal Navy crews from two ships said Thursday they have cleared the damaged and flooded airport runway outside St.

George's and that emergency relief flights were starting to arrive in the former colony.



The British sailors brought body bags ashore and performed some

emergency surgery.

"We were saving lives yesterday, with many of my

sailors ashore doing a lot of good work with people who had suffered quite terribly," Royal Navy Commander Mike

McCartain said in an interview released by Britain's Ministry of Defense.

Mitchell confirmed that the island's 17th century stone prison was "completely devastated" allowing convicts

to escape, including politicians jailed for 20 years for killings in a 1983 left-wing palace coup that led the

United States to invade.

Grenada is known as a major world producer

of nutmeg and for the U.S. invasion that followed the coup, when American officials had determined Grenada's

airport was going to become a joint Cuban-Soviet base. Cuba said it was helping build the airport for civilian use.

Nineteen Americans died in the fighting and a disputed number of others that the United States put at 45 Grenadians

and 24 Cubans.

Mitchell, whose own home was flattened, said he

feared the death toll would rise and much of the country's agriculture had been destroyed, including the nutmeg

crop.

U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said virtually every major

building in St. George's has suffered structural damage and that the United Nations (news - web sites) was sending

a disaster team. Grenada's once-quaint capital boasted English Georgian and French provincial buildings.



"It looks like a landslide happened," said Nicole Organ, a

21-year-old veterinary student from Toronto at St. George's University, which overlooks the Grenadian capital.

"There are all these colors coming down the mountainside — sheets of metal, pieces of shacks, roofs came off in

layers."

Students there, mostly Americans, were arming themselves

with knives, sticks and pepper spray against looters, said Sonya Lazarevic, 36, from New York City. "We don't feel

safe," she said on a bad telephone line.

When Organ wandered

downtown after the hurricane passed, she said she saw bands of men carrying machetes looting a hardware store. She

said she saw a bank with glass facade intact on her way down that was totally smashed when she returned.



In St. George's, looters smashed shop windows and cleared out a

huge dry goods warehouse filled with rice, sugar, flour, butter and soap.

Elsewhere, Ivan pulverized concrete homes into piles of rubble and tore away hundreds of landmark red zinc

roofs.

Its howling winds and drenching rains also flooded parts of

Venezuela's north coast, and a 32-year-old man died after battering waves engulfed a kiosk.



In Tobago, officials reported a 32-year-old pregnant woman died when

a 40-foot palm tree fell into her home, pinning her to her bed.

A

75-year-old Canadian woman was found drowned in a canal swollen by flood waters in Barbados. Neighbors said the

Toronto native, who had lived in Barbados for 30 years, braved the storm to search for her cat.



A meteorologist at the Miami center, Hugh Cobb, said that if Ivan

hits Jamaica, it could be more destructive than Hurricane Gilbert, which was only Category 3 when it devastated the

island in 1988.

Jamaica posted a hurricane warning Thursday morning.

Government schools were closed and fishermen advised to pull their skiffs ashore and head for dry land. Haiti's

southwest remained on hurricane watch and tropical storm warning. Dominican Republic was under hurricane watch and

tropical storm warning for the Barahona peninsula with a tropical storm watch over the southwest coast. Cayman

Islands posted a hurricane watch as did Cuba for central and eastern parts of the island.



At 2 p.m. EDT, Ivan was centered about 360 miles southeast of

Kingston, Jamaica. Hurricane-force winds extended up to 60 miles and tropical storm-force winds another 160 miles.

Ivan was moving west-northwest at 15 mph.

___





On the Net:





http://www.nhc.noaa.gov



http://www.wunderground.com/tropical

DrSmellThis
09-09-2004, 01:41 PM
The earth's climate sure has

changed over recent years. When is the last time three category 4 or 5 storms struck this close together (it was

like early 20th century since two had)? I wonder if Shaq is rethinking his move from LA to Miami?

belgareth
09-09-2004, 01:43 PM
A long time. Since hurricanes

acquire their energy from the earth's spin and from the sea's warmth, it does indicate the possibility of more

available heat. A very disturbing sign.

bjf
09-09-2004, 01:48 PM
It is really sad for the people down

there who already dealt with Frances. Grenada was really hit bad today.

DrSmellThis
09-09-2004, 01:52 PM
90% of their homes were

damaged and a prison was knocked down, setting the prisoners free.

bjf
09-09-2004, 01:55 PM
Yea, it is a mess there. Sad.

Mtnjim
09-09-2004, 04:57 PM
...I wonder if

Shaq is rethinking his move from LA to Miami?

They have earthquakes in LA!! :lol:

I lived in

Miami (Homestead) for 4 years '71-'75 and not one blow!!

The closest we came was Agnus that passed by the

west coast.

Jazsy4
09-09-2004, 05:27 PM
Oh god......I'm making it thru

Frances..........but......not Ivan too.......Everyday things get a little bit better here in West Palm. Hopefully

Ivan will go west of us. If not it'll make it harder for us to recover.

BassMan
09-10-2004, 07:16 AM
I'm in Orlando. We're pretty

freaked waiting for the next one.

-Bass

bjf
09-10-2004, 07:21 AM
I heard it will hit the west coast of

florida.
Jazsy, how bad is the damage in west palm? I am concerned about a couple of people who I know down

there, haven't heard from either.

DCW
09-10-2004, 07:41 AM
My friend lives in West Palm, I spoke

to him on Saturday morning but haven't been able to reach him since.


DCW

koolking1
09-10-2004, 07:44 AM
my daughter and kids are

leaving Sunday and flying up to spend the time with me. Her company is making some contingency plans and they are

very worried - if it hits Tampa it will be massive flooding.

Jazsy4
09-10-2004, 03:41 PM
bjf............things are getting

better here in West Palm....slowly but surely.....fpl and other out of state power employees are working non stop.

Supermarkets are slowly getting food stocks and the gas supply is getting better. Some people I know have damage to

their roofs, feld trees are all over etc... Everyone's making the best ........One of my good friends and his

family got phone service back last night but still no power. I spoke with him about an hour ago to have them come

over but he says they're ok.... just a little bored. A lot of people...either have or just...purchased a

generator. Like my friend they're keeping the fridge going and at night running a small window unit in one bedroom

to cool off. During the day they're jumping in the pool to get relief from the heat. Schools are closed...some

stop lights are still out and everynight the curfew gets a little later. We're bracing ourselves for Ivan now...it

seems to be going west towards Tampa.....still it's so large it affects us all......being that the west coast of

florida is only a 2-21/2 hr trip straight across Alligator alley. Some 80 miles ...when you consider how big the

eye and the winds off of it extend. Just a mere 30-40 miles north in Stuart.......tremendous damage to

property....Take care...I 'll keep you guys posted.Jazsy

bjf
09-10-2004, 04:00 PM
Damn. Stay safe

SweetBrenda
09-11-2004, 09:30 PM
I feel very sad for those who

lost their homes. All the demage is incredible.
=(*

belgareth
09-12-2004, 01:35 AM
It looks likethe worst of it

will pass to the west of Florida until it reaches the panhandle. Missississippi, Alabama and Georgia are likely to

get it pretty bad though. This is a really bad storm, it is now a catagory 5 and was still growing in intensity.

DrSmellThis
09-15-2004, 01:00 AM
If you go by

a straight line, it looks like Ivan is heading for Grand Isle, LA. But all of SE LA could be in for a world of hurt,

including New Orleans and Venice. A direct hit in the direction it's currently headed might very well put New

Orleans under 18 feet of water, as they are below sea level! This could be disastrous, with the 140 mph winds. I

hope people are all doing their best to get out.

Here's a motion-image:



[url="http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/ecir.html"]http://www.goes.noaa.gov/GSSLOOPS/ecir.html[/

url]

belgareth
09-15-2004, 02:41 AM
If it hits New Orleans it will

be be a major disaster. With all the chemical processing plants the water will be badly polluted. If Ivan follows

the probable curve it will actually hit a ways east of there though. Let's hope so. Anywhere will be a disaster but

some worse than others.

bjf
09-15-2004, 06:02 AM
More Than 1 Million Urged to Leave

New Orleans
Gulf Coast Awaits Category 4 Storm
By MARY FOSTER, AP



Multiband
Ivan Aims

for Gulf Coast

Broadband Only
Cuba Faces Flooding
Florida Keeps an Eye on Ivan
Jamaicans Left in

Tears


NEW ORLEANS (Sept. 15) -- More than 1.2 million people in metropolitan New Orleans were warned

to get out as 140-mph Hurricane Ivan churned toward the Gulf Coast, threatening to submerge this below-sea-level

city in what could be the most disastrous storm to hit in nearly 40 years.

Residents streamed inland in

bumper-to-bumper traffic in an agonizingly slow exodus Tuesday amid dire warnings that Ivan could overwhelm New

Orleans with up to 20 feet of filthy, chemical-polluted water. About three-quarters of a million more people along

the coast in Florida, Mississippi and Alabama also were told to evacuate.

Forecasters said Ivan, blamed for

at least 68 deaths in the Caribbean, could reach 160 mph and strengthen to Category 5, the highest level, by the

time it blows ashore as early as Thursday somewhere along the Gulf Coast.

''Hopefully the house will

still be here when we get back,'' said Tara Chandra, a doctor at Tulane University in New Orleans who packed up

his car, moved plants indoors and tried to book a Houston hotel room. Chandra said he wanted to ride out the storm,

but his wife wanted to evacuate: ''All the news reports are kind of freaking her out.''

With

hurricane-force wind extending 105 miles from its center - and forecast to continue as much as 150 miles inland -

Ivan could cause significant damage no matter where it strikes. Officials ordered or strongly urged an estimated 1.9

million people in four states to flee to higher ground.

''I beg people on the coast: Do not ride this storm

out,'' Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour said, urging people in other parts of the state to open their homes to

relatives, friends and co-workers.

At 8 a.m. EDT Wednesday, Ivan was centered about 180 miles south-southeast

of the mouth of the Mississippi River and moving north-northwest at 12 mph. Forecasters said Ivan could bring a

coastal storm surge of 10 to 16 feet, topped by large, battering waves.

The National Hurricane Center in

Miami posted a hurricane warning for about a 300-mile swath from Apalachicola in Florida western Panhandle to New

Orleans and Grand Isle in Louisiana. Forecasters said Ivan could bring a coastal storm surge of 10 to 16 feet,

topped by large, battering waves.

''If we get the kind of tidal surge they are saying, the fishing boats

are all going to be in the trees,'' said Jamee Lowry, owner of a bar and restaurant in Perdido Key, Florida, near

the Alabama border.

New Orleans, the nation's largest city below sea level, is particularly vulnerable to

flooding, and Mayor Ray Nagin was among the first to urge residents to get out while they can. The city's Louis

Armstrong Airport was ordered closed Tuesday night.

Up to 10 feet below sea level in spots, New Orleans is a

bowl-shaped depression that sits between the half-mile-wide Mississippi River and Rhode Island-size Lake

Pontchartrain. It relies on a system of levees, canals and huge pumps to keep dry.

The city has not taken a

major direct hit from a hurricane since Betsy in 1965, when an 8- to 10-foot storm surge submerged parts of the city

in seven feet of water. Betsy, a Category 3 storm, was blamed for 74 deaths in Louisiana, Mississippi and

Florida.


In Ivan's Path




Experts said Ivan could be worse, sending

water pouring over levees, flooding to the rooftops and turning streets into a toxic brew of raw sewage, gas and

chemicals from nearby refineries.

Nagin said he would ''aggressively recommend'' people evacuate, but

that it would be difficult to order them to, because at least 100,000 in the city rely on public transportation and

have no way to leave.

''They say evacuate, but they don't say how I'm supposed to do that,'' said

Latonya Hill, 57, who lives on a disability check and money she picks up cleaning houses or baby sitting. ''If I

can't walk it or get there on the bus, I don't go. I don't got a car. My daughter don't either.''

The

mayor also said many people were in town for conventions, and there was nowhere for many of them to go except their

hotels.

The National Safety Council, which had about 16,000 delegates in town for its national convention,

ended its meeting a day early Tuesday, and delegates faced the problem of getting transportation out of the

city.

Despite the potential need for emergency housing, no shelters had been opened in the city as of Tuesday

night. Nagin said the city was working on setting up a shelter of ''last resort'' and added that the Superdome

might be used, but a spokesman for the stadium said earlier Tuesday that it was not equipped as a shelter.

By

midday Tuesday, traffic on Interstate 10, the major hurricane route out of New Orleans, was at a near standstill,

and state police turned the interstate west of the city into a one-way route out. U.S. Highway 61 to Baton Rouge

also was jammed.

In the French Quarter, businesses put up plywood and closed their shutters. A few people

were still hanging out at Cafe du Monde, a favorite spot for French roast coffee and beignets, and a man playing a

trombone outside had a box full of tips.

''They said get out, but I can't change my flight, so I figure I

might as well enjoy myself,'' said George Senton, of Newark, New Jersey, who listened to the music. ''At least

I'll have had some good coffee and some good music before it gets me.''

Elsewhere along the Gulf Coast,

thousands of residents, gamblers and tourists crowded northbound roads. Motels were booked as far north as Jackson,

Mississippi, and Montgomery, Alabama.

Mississippi regulators ordered a dozen casinos along the state's

75-mile-long coast to close at noon Tuesday. Many gamblers pumped coins into the slot machines right up to

closing.

''I don't worry about what's going to happen tomorrow. We can't control it anyway,'' said Ed

Bak of Fairfield, Ohio, who dropped quarters into a machine at the President Casino.

Northrop Grumman Ship

Systems, a major shipbuilder for the Navy, closed its Pascagoula shipyard, which employs 12,000.

In Alabama,

Gov. Bob Riley ordered the evacuation of coastal resorts. ''This is a serious storm that requires serious action

to get people out of harm's way,'' he said.

In Gulf Shores, Alabama, the sugary white beaches and offbeat

tourist spots were largely deserted. Workers at Souvenir City, where tourists enter by walking through the mouth of

a huge shark, packed up glass figurines for storage in a warehouse.

belgareth
09-15-2004, 06:23 AM
On of the really unhappy parts

is the poor and homeless that have nowhere to go and no way to get there. The city is only considering a shelter of

last resort for the thousands who are unable to leave. Far too little!

belgareth
09-15-2004, 11:13 AM
Tropical Storm Jeanne Strengthening



By FRANK GRIFFITHS, Associated Press Writer





SAN JUAN, Puerto

Rico - Tropical Storm Jeanne, nearing hurricane strength, lashed Puerto Rico on Wednesday as rivers rose, roads

flowed with torrents of water and frantic residents evacuated low-lying areas.

Drenching rain from the storm's outer bands, and accompanying wind gusts that smashed plants off

terraces, reached the U.S. territory of 4 million people Wednesday morning.

The eye of the storm was expected to hit Puerto Rico's southwest coast by afternoon, and a hurricane

warning was issued for the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

"It's going to be a close call for Puerto Rico," said Chris Hennon, a meteorologist with the National

Hurricane Center (news - web sites) in Miami. "Jeanne will probably become a hurricane Wednesday."



The storm's projected path had it potentially reaching

hurricane-weary Florida, Georgia and South Carolina either Sunday or Monday.

All Puerto Rican ports were closed, Gov. Sila Calderon announced Wednesday, when she banned alcohol sales

and urged people to stay indoors. The largest mall in the Caribbean — Plaza las Americas — also was shut.



Calderon said Jeanne had cut water service to some 30,000 people in

the northeast and knocked out electricity in about 1,000 homes just outside San Juan. More than 700 people evacuated

their homes for shelters, authorities said.

The storm passed St.

Croix, the southernmost of the U.S. Virgin Islands, overnight, dumping about 7 inches of rain and leaving about

50,000 people without power, officials said.

At 11 a.m. EDT,

Jeanne's center was 45 miles south-southeast of San Juan.

Maximum

sustained wind was near 70 mph, just 4 mph below hurricane status. Winds extended 60 miles.



Robin Phillips, who lives in the southeast town of Naguabo, said

about 2 inches of rain had fallen and strong bursts of wind were blowing around barrels, pieces of zinc and lumber.



"We've been through seven hurricanes that were all worse than

this," the 57-year-old organic farmer said. "But I boarded up most of my windows and tied our belongings down just

in case."

The biggest concerns for Puerto Rico were flash flooding

and mudslides, said National Hurricane Center meteorologist Hector Guerrero.

Few cars were on the roads, but at Mi Antojito cafe in north-coast Luquillo, Nancy Lauriano served grilled

ham-and-cheese sandwiches to a trickle of people clutching windblown umbrellas.



"It came fast, too fast, but looks weak to me. I think only water is

going to come," Lauriano said.

She had fixed metal storm shutters

around her home, but many houses were left unprotected.

Jeanne, the

10th named storm of the Atlantic hurricane season, was moving west-northwest near 8 mph.



"It just never stops!" said Merce Roca, a real estate agent in the

old colonial section of San Juan, where she spent hours bolting her mansion's large wooden doors and pulling

tropical plants in from her courtyard. "It seems like we've been doing this every day."



In the past two weeks, the region has seen three major hurricanes —

Charley, Frances and the deadliest of them all, Ivan, which killed 68 people in the Caribbean. Ivan was near the

mouth of the Mississippi River, threatening to hit the U.S. mainland on Thursday.



The Dominican Republic issued a hurricane watch and tropical storm

warning for portions of its north and south coasts. A tropical storm warning covered the British Virgin Islands and

St. Kitts and Nevis.

American Airlines canceled 17 flights leaving

San Juan and six to the city on Wednesday.

Government offices,

schools and courts and banks were closed Wednesday, and casinos — which draw thousands of tourists to the U.S.

territory each day and have to be inspected by government officials — likely would remain idle. Mail would not be

delivered.

Eight to 12 inches of rainfall were expected in Puerto

Rico, which last was struck by Hurricane Georges in 1998.

The U.S.

Virgin Islands emergency management agency gave sandbags to residents in low-lying areas and told them to be ready

to evacuate even though the storm was not forecast to directly strike the territory of 110,000 residents.

DrSmellThis
09-15-2004, 02:55 PM
Now it's looking to me like

it'll hit Alabama. But it will be horrible everywhere from LA to FLA. If it were me and I was homeless, I'd leave

on foot until I reached higher ground, unless there was strong shelter above sea level by 10 feet or more.

belgareth
09-15-2004, 06:04 PM
I hear they are telling those

who can't get out to seek shelter in tall buildings. Great plan until the frippin' windows blow out.

bjf
09-15-2004, 06:08 PM
Are businesses really supposed to be

underwater?

belgareth
09-15-2004, 06:11 PM
Depends on where it hits. The

storm surge will be about 16'. If it crests the dikes on either side of New Orleans they say the water could be as

much as 20' deep in parts of the city.

DrSmellThis
09-15-2004, 06:32 PM
Jeez, now it looks like its

curving toward the Florida panhandle. This must be crazymaking for gulf coast residents.

belgareth
09-15-2004, 06:34 PM
It hasn't even reached the

coast yet and is already destroying things. I just read where 300 miles south they are measuring 34' waves. That's

going to be bad when it hits the coast.

DrSmellThis
09-15-2004, 10:39 PM
It's just about to crash into

Alabama.