Chikara spray volumes measured

[BassMan]

For all

you mad scientists:

I measured the spray volumes of three bottles of Chikara - one of Beta 2 (release 51-150),

and two of the Final Release (matte silver caps and sprayers).

The Beta 2 bottle gave 520 sprays, which was

0.0288 ml / spray, or 0.0192 mg total pheros / spray.

The two final release bottles gave approx. 225 sprays

each; 0.0667 ml / spray, or 0.0444 mg total pheros / spray.

(The spray volumes of the two final release bottles

were very close, closer than I could visually estimate the slight differences in their fill level).

-Bass

[bjf]

Whoooooaaaaa.. Thanks

bassman!!!!!!!!!!!

I was wondering about all this. This should be put on the newbies click here info, or

Pherolibrary.com, and/or reference material.

[oscar]

BassMan,

Thanks for taking the time to count out all of those sprays! It's definitely good to know that the

sprays from the new Chikara bottle are 2.3 times the volume of the ones from the betas.

I do have a couple

of questions though, just to satisfy my own curiousity.

Was the reason that you undertook to do this "sprayfest"

a desire to mix all three of these bottles together in order to "homogenize" the different batches?

And, was

your beta bottle (release 51-150, as you stated) very heavy in a "Vanillin" note, or was it a "weak fragrance"

version?

Again, Thanks!

Oscar :)

[Bruce]

Bassman,

Wow! I immediately

figured it was quite a bit more, but would never have guessed more than 2X. For some reason, I don't fully

depress the spray head when using. Maybe I am adicted to my 2 sprays and without thinking about it that much just

use two small sprays. I think I'll try one full spray and see how that works.

Bruce

[Indigo]

Bassman,

Wow! I

immediately figured it was quite a bit more, but would never have guessed more than 2X. For some reason, I don't

fully depress the spray head when using. Maybe I am adicted to my 2 sprays and without thinking about it that much

just use two small sprays. I think I'll try one full spray and see how that works.

Bruce

Hello

Bruce,

what amount of Chikara ( over all pheromone amount from Chikara ) per application do you recommend?



Regards

Ingo

[BassMan]

BassMan,

Thanks

for taking the time to count out all of those sprays! It's definitely good to know that the sprays from the new

Chikara bottle are 2.3 times the volume of the ones from the betas.

I do have a couple of questions though,

just to satisfy my own curiousity.

Was the reason that you undertook to do this "sprayfest" a desire to mix all

three of these bottles together in order to "homogenize" the different batches?

And, was your beta bottle

(release 51-150, as you stated) very heavy in a "Vanillin" note, or was it a "weak fragrance" version?

Again,

Thanks!

Oscar :)
I wanted to mix all the batches. I also had some from beta 1 that I added. My beta 2

was a fairly strong scent, stronger than beta 1, not as strong as the final release.

I just never work with

pheros at a 0.667 concentration. I've been wearing Chikara mixed with EtOH in a Andro 4.2 bottle, at the ratio of

1/2 drop per spray. I find that works with a lot of things, including WAGG. Most pheros work better for me once

they've mixed with my own sweat and aged. So I apply them lightly over a large area.

-Bass

[BassMan]

Bassman,

Wow! I

immediately figured it was quite a bit more, but would never have guessed more than 2X. For some reason, I don't

fully depress the spray head when using. Maybe I am adicted to my 2 sprays and without thinking about it that much

just use two small sprays. I think I'll try one full spray and see how that works.

Bruce
Yeah, the

new bottles felt like they delivered a lot more, which was one of the reasons I set out on my sprayfest.

-Bass

[ismellgood]

Bassman,

I wanted to prepare a mix of Chikara and NPA that would replicate the ratio reported by a few users

(2 sprays Chikara to 1 dab of npa), such

as:
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11273&highlight=npa+chikara
http://love-scent

.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11429&highlight=npa+chikara

What would that be quantitatively? (my question

has more to do with the number of ml for a "dab" of npa, because you already provide the details for a chikara spray

above).

Thank you.

[BassMan]

Bassman,

I

wanted to prepare a mix of Chikara and NPA that would replicate the ratio reported by a few users (2 sprays Chikara

to 1 dab of npa), such

as:
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/sho

wthread.php?t=11273&highlight=npa+chikara (http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11273&highlight=npa+chikara)
http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11429&highlight=npa+chikara (http://pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11429&highlight=

npa+chikara)

What would that be

quantitatively? (my question has more to do with the number of ml for a "dab" of npa, because you already provide

the details for a chikara spray above).

Thank you.I don't have an answer for npa at hand. Anyone else

have one?

-Bass

[DrSmellThis]

I think all bets are off

regarding how much Chikara to use. It's really confusing for me.

[bjf]

What do you mean, Doc?

I can

tell you my experience has been starting at 3.5 sprays, going up to 4, deciding that was too much, going down to 2,

finding out that was too little, going to 3, finding out that might not last as long but was great, then going to 4,

but thinking that took too much punch out of NPA, and then (now) thinking 3.5 sprays should do the

trick.

Actually 3 sprays was pretty damn good, so lets make it 3.25. I use the beta 2 version.

[DrSmellThis]

Apparently you're not

confused! ;) I seem to get a different size spray each time, and then some on the spray head that I rub off. So I

don't really ever know how much I'm getting. It's only an issue for this one bottle, I'm assuming. But the

bottle is lasting me a while.

[BassMan]

Apparently

you're not confused! ;) I seem to get a different size spray each time, and then some on the spray head that I rub

off. So I don't really ever know how much I'm getting. It's only an issue for this one bottle, I'm assuming. But

the bottle is lasting me a while.
That's exactly why I sprayed it all out into a reagent bottle. I then

dilute it to where a relatively repeatable Andro 4.2 bottle delivers however much I want.

[bjf]

Well I have resorted to giving a

couple of sprays into an empty bottle first, just to get the full spray going.

For some time I was using

sprays that I thought were full sprays and getting diminishing results. As soon as I accidently stumbled upon what

a full spray was, my results got back to what they were in the beginning.

[CptKipling]

Whoooooaaaaa..

Thanks bassman!!!!!!!!!!!

I was wondering about all this. This should be put on the newbies click here info, or

Pherolibrary.com, and/or reference material.
I'll get onto it.

Which reminds me, did I miss Bruce

disclosing the "big 3" pheromone concentrations for C7?

[DrSmellThis]

I should probably do that.

I've been afraid of wasting it. SO a full spray is more than you thought?

[bjf]

Yea, DST, a full sprays was more than

I was using in the middle of my Chikara journey. In the beginning I was getting the full sprays, or doing

pre-sprays to get them.

At a certain point I stopped. I forgot what I full spray looked like sort of speak.

Couldn't figure out why my results went down. Remember the thread I did asking if anyone else had found that

Chikara no longer made them cheerful? Well, I thought I was getting de-sensitized to it (which I partially have)

but was happing was I just had less on than I thought I had on. The NPA irratibility was becoming a problem

again.

Once I did the full sprays again, the irratibility was gone, which confirmed my suspicision that I was

using less.

For those with the new chikara, wasting sprays in particuarly painful (the thing is 2.3 times

greater per spray), so it would definitely be a good idea to spray into a empty bottle and hopefully accumalate

something you can dab on.

[InternationalPlayboy]

For those

with the new chikara, wasting sprays in particuarly painful (the thing is 2.3 times greater per spray), so it would

definitely be a good idea to spray into a empty bottle and hopefully accumalate something you can dab

on.

That's a good idea. I've always sprayed the partial, beginning spray of the day on myself

because I didn't want to waste it, but I think I'll try that.