Some effects using a lot of Chikara and a little bit of TE unscented...

[Lagrimas]

Well, since I'm bored, I may as well report what happened last night. I just

recently got Chikara and TE unscented so that's what i've been using recently. I posted earlier yesterday about

the smell of Chikara not being very long lasting and Bruce commented that the particular batch that I had apart of

seemed a bit weak so I decided to up my dosage of Chikara to see if it would work better. This was before I read

that post by whoever it was who said that the amount of pheremones in the Chikara were probably the same.



Anyway, I put on two sprays of Chikara to my chest around 12 noon, then at 2pm, i added another two sprays of

Chikara to my chest. And then around 6 or 7 when i was getting to go out, i put a spray of TE on my chest and then

2-3 sprays of Chikara. Then I also applied a spray of chikara to each wrist and rubbed my wrists between each other,

then I decided, well, if i'm going overboard, I may as well really go overboard, so I applied yet another spray of

chikara to each wrist and rubbed them together as they seemed a bit damp.

So, after this, I get into my car and

get ready to meet up with one of my best friends and his girlfriend who i also know really well. well, it turns out

he's working on his car and so he asks if i could pick up his girl, so i say sure and drive out to her.

well,

i'm sure she got a big dosage of the pheremones because we spent about half an hour in my car driving back to my

friend's house, so she was sitting right next to me for a long period of time, plus the enclosed enviornment of the

car probably kept a lot of the pheremones from dispersing that were released on the way over to her house.



anyway, we also stopped at a grocery store to get some bread product and we also stopped at a video store to get a

movie on the way to my friend's house. at this point, nothing in particular seems different.

lol, I feel bad

because this is such a long post for something very minor but hopefully the more information we can put on the board

will allow better pheremone usage. anyway... the one thing in particular that happened which was surprising to me

was that all three of us were in my friend's bedroom and i was lying on his bed on my back when i got a call from

another friend on my cell so i started talking. now, in the four years or so of me knowing this girl, she has always

been the passive type and i have never, ever seen her go out of the way to touch someone or be agressive or

anything. in fact, she's probably the most passive girl that me or any of my friends know. now that i think of it,

in the four years of me knowing her, we've never actually had physical contact of *any* kind, lol. but now you know

the type of girl she is.

so, i was lying on the bed talking on my cell phone when i felt movement around my

ankles, but since i was distracted by the phone, i didn't think much of it. however, when i got off the phone, i

realized that the girl had picked up a computer cable lying on the ground of my friend's room and had roped my

ankles together! and this wasn't just her wrapping the cable around my ankles a few times, this was a serious knot,

i honestly couldn't untie myself. eventually my friend had to come to my rescue and untie me, it was really

uncomfortable and extremely weird behavior on her part because as i said, in the four years of me knowing her,

she's never acted like that.

for the rest of the night, she seemed flirty and at one point my friend showed a

porn site that he had recently found, after a minute or so, he and i were both distracted by the olympics on tv but

the girl kept flipping through the pictures on the site even long after my friend was like "umm... you don't have

to keep looking through the pictures..." very peculiar behavior, especially since when i picked her up at first, she

said that she had had a very hard day at work.

so who knows, maybe the pheremones caused her behavior change or

maybe it was just a weird night for her. at any rate, i don't think the huge amount of chikara i used had any

negative effects on her or my friend.

[TRock]

chikara and te are currently my go

to combo too but i add in 2 swipes of soe.

[Snoopy]

I used 6 sprays of Chikara and

1/3 pack of unscented TE last night, really nice results. Went out for dessert with my friend and her family. One

cute waitress rubbed into me at LEAST 4 times... even though there was plenty of space around me. I got a LOT of

looks, and 2 girls came in and my friend caught them taking pictures of me with their cellphone LOL.

[JasonLJS]

Maybe I need to up the amount

of Chikara I am using. I currently only use 2 sprays (one on the front of my neck and one on the wrists.) If you

guys didn't notice any OD effects while using such a high amount then I am going to try it. Also, what kind of

Chikara? I have the new version and it sprays out like 2.3 times the amount as in previous versions. Did you use a

full spray? Any cologne, as I have noticed Chikara's scent doesn't last that long?

[TheViking]

I have the same experience

with chikara - the scent doesn't seem to last for very long.. It's also the new one. This makes me consider upping

the dosage as well.. Hmm.. And guess I should start mixing some more.

I did have a nice saturday two weekends

ago though. Had 2-3 sprays of chikara and some perception. Don't know if it's a good mix or not, but it seemed to

work for me. I spent most of the night dansing with a girl I hadn't talked with for a few years. She had a

boyfriend now, which was also at the night club, but she didn't seem to give him much attention that night

:cheers:

[platinumfox]

Well, since

I'm bored, I may as well report what happened last night. I just recently got Chikara and TE unscented so that's

what i've been using recently. I posted earlier yesterday about the smell of Chikara not being very long lasting

and Bruce commented that the particular batch that I had apart of seemed a bit weak so I decided to up my dosage of

Chikara to see if it would work better. This was before I read that post by whoever it was who said that the amount

of pheremones in the Chikara were probably the same.

Anyway, I put on two sprays of Chikara to my chest

around 12 noon, then at 2pm, i added another two sprays of Chikara to my chest. And then around 6 or 7 when i was

getting to go out, i put a spray of TE on my chest and then 2-3 sprays of Chikara. Then I also applied a spray of

chikara to each wrist and rubbed my wrists between each other, then I decided, well, if i'm going overboard, I may

as well really go overboard, so I applied yet another spray of chikara to each wrist and rubbed them together as

they seemed a bit damp.

So, after this, I get into my car and get ready to meet up with one of my best

friends and his girlfriend who i also know really well. well, it turns out he's working on his car and so he asks

if i could pick up his girl, so i say sure and drive out to her.

well, i'm sure she got a big dosage of the

pheremones because we spent about half an hour in my car driving back to my friend's house, so she was sitting

right next to me for a long period of time, plus the enclosed enviornment of the car probably kept a lot of the

pheremones from dispersing that were released on the way over to her house.

anyway, we also stopped at a

grocery store to get some bread product and we also stopped at a video store to get a movie on the way to my

friend's house. at this point, nothing in particular seems different.

lol, I feel bad because this is such

a long post for something very minor but hopefully the more information we can put on the board will allow better

pheremone usage. anyway... the one thing in particular that happened which was surprising to me was that all three

of us were in my friend's bedroom and i was lying on his bed on my back when i got a call from another friend on my

cell so i started talking. now, in the four years or so of me knowing this girl, she has always been the passive

type and i have never, ever seen her go out of the way to touch someone or be agressive or anything. in fact, she's

probably the most passive girl that me or any of my friends know. now that i think of it, in the four years of me

knowing her, we've never actually had physical contact of *any* kind, lol. but now you know the type of girl she

is.

so, i was lying on the bed talking on my cell phone when i felt movement around my ankles, but since i

was distracted by the phone, i didn't think much of it. however, when i got off the phone, i realized that the girl

had picked up a computer cable lying on the ground of my friend's room and had roped my ankles together! and this

wasn't just her wrapping the cable around my ankles a few times, this was a serious knot, i honestly couldn't

untie myself. eventually my friend had to come to my rescue and untie me, it was really uncomfortable and extremely

weird behavior on her part because as i said, in the four years of me knowing her, she's never acted like that.



for the rest of the night, she seemed flirty and at one point my friend showed a porn site that he had recently

found, after a minute or so, he and i were both distracted by the olympics on tv but the girl kept flipping through

the pictures on the site even long after my friend was like "umm... you don't have to keep looking through the

pictures..." very peculiar behavior, especially since when i picked her up at first, she said that she had had a

very hard day at work.

so who knows, maybe the pheremones caused her behavior change or maybe it was just a

weird night for her. at any rate, i don't think the huge amount of chikara i used had any negative effects on her

or my friend.That sounds like a MAJOR OD on Chikara but you didnt get OD results.

[Friendly1]

That sounds

like a MAJOR OD on Chikara but you didnt get OD results.
I have yet to see anyone post anything like a

major OD for Chikara. I have used 8 sprays myself with only good or mediocre results. Nothing bad seems to happen

with Chikara.

[SirAngel]

Same here. 10 Sprays of chikara

when i got it new, cuz i thougt the sprayer wasnt working propperbly.
No tipical OD results...

[Darkman84]

Probably an older version of

Chikara. He did say the scent didn't seem to last long. The newest release of Chikara(dull grey/silver cap AND

sprayhead) the scent lasts pretty long and and for most, more than 3 sprays is OD territory. So, my guess is that

you guys, as well as Lagrimas, are using one of the weaker batches on Chikara.(smaller volume sprays from those

sprayheads, which would require more sprays than you need with the newest release.) There at least two previous

releases aside from the newest one. I think there might even be 3, at least I have read the around here

somewhere....

[SirAngel]

How can Tell the difference

between the new and the old chikara??? Just the color of the caps?

[Friendly1]

Probably an

older version of Chikara. He did say the scent didn't seem to last long. The newest release of Chikara(dull

grey/silver cap AND sprayhead) the scent lasts pretty long and and for most, more than 3 sprays is OD territory.

What do you mean by "OD territory"? I haven't seen anyone post a description of OD behavior in association

with any version of Chikara. Did I miss a thread?

My Beta Chikara is now down to about 30-40% of the original

content, so I'll need to order some more in a month or two.


Has anyone reported anything like the classic OD

problems with Chikara (the currently available version)?

Classic OD symptoms include any of the following: too

strong an odor (unpleasant, like the Androstenone cat-pee smell), people avoiding the wearer, the wearer feeling

aggressive or nervous or anxious, people reacting badly to the wearer (aggressive or anxious), headaches,

sleeplessness.

[bjf]

Friendly: I noticed diminished

effectiveness when I went from 3 sprays to 4 of beta chikara.

[Friendly1]

Friendly: I noticed

diminished effectiveness when I went from 3 sprays to 4 of beta chikara.
Hm. I have only noticed

improvement going from 2 to 4 sprays. But 8 sprays appears to be a levelling off point.

I wonder if personal

body chemistry is more sensitive to these more complex mixes?

[bjf]

Well, I wear on my jawline.......are

you wearing on your chest?

[phinmone]

I have yet to

see anyone post anything like a major OD for Chikara. I have used 8 sprays myself with only good or mediocre

results. Nothing bad seems to happen with Chikara.

well, friendly, i had a chikara od a few weeks

back, that i reported on this forum...

phinmone

[Friendly1]

Well, I wear on my

jawline.......are you wearing on your chest?
Yes. I always start on my chest. So, if I go with 2 sprays,

I just put them on my chest. If I go with 4 sprays, then 2 to the chest and 2 to the arms. 6 sprays, 4 to the

chest and 2 to the arms. 8 sprays are usually a 6+touchup combo.

I don't put any colognes near my jawline.

Just personal preference.

Still, I can't see how that would make much difference.

[bjf]

Yes. I always start

on my chest. So, if I go with 2 sprays, I just put them on my chest. If I go with 4 sprays, then 2 to the chest

and 2 to the arms. 6 sprays, 4 to the chest and 2 to the arms. 8 sprays are usually a 6+touchup combo.

I

don't put any colognes near my jawline. Just personal preference.

Still, I can't see how that would make

much difference.

I am pretty sure I could go four with good results if some or all were under

clothes.

[Darkman84]

What do you

mean by "OD territory"? I haven't seen anyone post a description of OD behavior in association with any version of

Chikara. Did I miss a thread?

My Beta Chikara is now down to about 30-40% of the original content, so I'll need

to order some more in a month or two.


Has anyone reported anything like the classic OD problems with Chikara

(the currently available version)?

Classic OD symptoms include any of the following: too strong an odor

(unpleasant, like the Androstenone cat-pee smell), people avoiding the wearer, the wearer feeling aggressive or

nervous or anxious, people reacting badly to the wearer (aggressive or anxious), headaches, sleeplessness.



It's been said somewhere around here. I honestly can't remember what thread, but I do know that it has been

said that of the new Chikara, onlu up to about 3 sprays are needed and over that for most people is an OD risk. I

myself haven't OD'd on it yet, but that's because I haven't worn more than two sprays.

[bjf]

The size of the beta chikara sprays

are significantly smaller.

[ismellgood]

I use only a single spray of

the newer Chikara.