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deyaneria
07-28-2004, 09:21 PM
Just wanted to let you know i've
had great results with essential oils and pheros
the website that was posted before on how to mix the oils was a
great help i'v even started making my own natural spray perfume. Just to give you an idea what a difference i've
seen. I definitely get more hits from men and the women want me to make them perfume.
lyric820
08-05-2004, 10:38 AM
Just a little curious...Have
you ever tried EW with PI? Is that possible? or would that just be courting disaster due to the high
concentrations?
deyaneria
08-05-2004, 11:59 AM
i've never tried ew
or pi just pcc, soe,npa , and anol w/musk. I've had good results with mixing these.
lyric820
08-05-2004, 12:04 PM
Thanks Deyaneria....I'm new to
this so I'm just trying to find something guaranteed to work...My hubbie and I reached a "boring" phase after 5
years and I want to see if we can rekindle that "hot new relationship" feeling....nowhatimean? Would you have any
other suggestions....something I might be able to get on the "cheap but very good" side?
deyaneria
08-05-2004, 12:39 PM
if i were you i'd try some the
packets first and see what kind of response you get. the first thing i tried was npa it made my boyfriend much more
attentive. it's easy to use as well. soe seems to make people more talkative.
lyric820
08-06-2004, 07:26 PM
I have this awesome bottle of
body cream B&B's warm vanilla/brown sugar and it smells good enough to eat...would you guys recommend I add some
EW? And, if so, and this is more for the more experienced "phero-chemists" out there....how much should I use for a
good result?
oscar
08-07-2004, 09:53 PM
lyric820,
I had
the good fortune to take part in the beta-testing of EW. If the numbers that the beta testers came up with are
accurate, they should be translatable to the current product.
beta-EW had an incredibly noxious, foul smelling,
room-evacuating, malodorous stench, so it was decided to dilute it fairly radically to make it a viable commercial
additive. The present product is only 1/100th as potent as the beta.
Just a few drops of beta could be added to a
full gallon of distilled water to make a viable, effective Copulin product.
The ratios that appeared to be
effective in the early testing surprisingly indicated that unlike the products that we're accustomed to using that
have concentrations ranging from .005% to .1%, EW beta was in fact a 100% pure Copulin product.
To dilute the
beta to the concentration of PCC (.025%) it needed to be diluted 4000:1.
To get it to the concentration of the
Copulin content of PPA/w (.005%) beta-EW had to be diluted 20,000:1.
So, since the current commercial version of
EW is only 1% as potent as its toxic ancestor, you could mimic the concentration of PCC by diluting 40:1, or for
something more subtle like PPA/w's Copulin content, dilute 200:1. (Note that Copulins are a secondary component of
PPA/w whose primary phero is Androstenol.)
I'd suggest that you experiment with dilutions at various points
within the range between 40:1 and 200:1 to try to achieve a balance between effectiveness and lack of detectability.
If you've smelled the stuff you'll know what I mean. ;)
Oscar :)
lyric820
08-09-2004, 05:51 AM
Oscar,
Could EW's
effectiveness be compromised by adding a drop or two in a perfume or in a body cream? I haven't actually bought it
yet but I would like to know exactly what I am getting into and how I can maximize its effectiveness. Can you give
me a visual example of 40:1? Pardon my ignorance. I was actually planning on putting in one drop per 2 oz of
body cream but now I think that might be overkill. You got any better ideas? What has worked for you?
lyric820
oscar
08-09-2004, 07:53 AM
lyric,
If you were dealing with
the beta it would be overkill, but the 1% EW available now isn't quite so volatile. You can probably get away with
several drops in 2 ozs. of cream, but try experimenting by mixing really small quantities at first to get a handle
on how well the EW is covered by the cream's scent. Like putting a drop in a tablespoon's worth of cream. Assuming
the cream is fairly thick, it's not like you're going to be able to use an eyedropper to measure out 40 drops, so
working with spoonsful might be more practical.
Unfortunately there are two things I don't know: The optimum
single application dose of Copulins, or how much of your cream you use per application. Thus the need for you to
experiment.
To save time you can run two tests concurrently. Get a couple of clean pill vials. Use a set of
measuring spoons to put a teaspoon of body cream in one vial and a tablespoon in the other. Use an eyedropper to put
one drop of EW in each. Stir them up well and check them the next day. Try applying a dab or two and check the smell
of each. Stir again and keep re-checking and mixing for a few days.
If one or both end up too strong you can
just take a small dab of the spiked stuff and mix some unadulterated cream with it right in your hand before
applying.
You can also use this method to "zone" or "shade" your applications to put more Copulin emphasis in
strategic locations. ;)
Oscar :)
bindy
08-10-2004, 05:11 AM
I just bought EW, and have tried
adding it to various perfume samples that I got from the store. It still smells bad, but it's bearable. I don't
think it smells like pussy, I think it smells like really stinky feet! Yesterday I went to put on some of one of
the perfume samples, I had it on my fingers, and it smelled so bad I put it on my ankles....I mean, if it smells
like stinky feet, it might as well be down there. Anyway, I had to wash my hands before being around anyone. Glad
I didn't test the Beta!
BTW, my husband and I have been married almost 19 years, and our love making is VERY
passionate. Pheromones have helped some. So take heart, it can happen if you want it to. We have both been making
a concerted effort to keep the passion alive.
Bindy
lyric820
08-10-2004, 06:11 AM
Hi Bindy,
Wow! 19-year
success stories are very rare nowadays and it really gives me joy that you "keep it alive and kicking!"
This is my second time around and the man is crazy about me after five years. So, I am doing my best not to
let the flames die out. They say the way to a man's heart is his stomach, but I'm aiming a little
lower!:thumbsup:
Anyway, did you get to try the EW on your hubbie? Did he notice the stink? What did you
cover it up with? etc. etc.
Any other pheremone products that worked well for you?
I am EXTREMELY curious!
bindy
08-10-2004, 08:19 AM
It seems to take some tweaking,
like everyone else has said in the forums. I have accumulated quite an arsenel, and am having fun seeing what works
for me and what doesn't. I didn't really try the EW on him because I was so freaked out when I tried it on and it
smelled so bad that I washed it off. Today I read in the forums about what mixes people use. Tonight or tomorrow I
will try just a dab of EW with PI, AE (which I LOVE the smell of), and NPC to see what happens. Since the Pheromax
was on sale, I also ordered that, so we'll see what that does.
Good luck,
Bindy
randa
08-10-2004, 04:59 PM
I LOVE EW!!!!! I
personally think it mixes well with B & BW Warm Vanilla Sugar. I currently have a 8 fl. oz. bottle of body lotion to
which I've added 4 drops, shaken really well. To my nose, there's no EW odor. If anything, it may have given more
'body' to the vanilla.
When I first got EW, I tested it out by putting 1 drop into maybe 1- 1 1/2 Tbsp. of
Angel body cream. OMG, I thought it stunk, but I smeared myself with it anyways. I had to clean my hands because I
couldn't handle the smell on them. No one mentioned any disagreable odor at all, I was with friends and believe me,
they'd of said something. But, I could smell it. I don't really think it was that stout of a smell but part of it
was that I knew I had it on and so I was more sensitive to the EW odor.
When the EW bottle is open, there is
a definite smell. But once I'm done mixing, I close up all bottles and leave the room to let things settle, the
odor dissipates and it's fine.
I would also highly recommend NPA/w. The most effective mix I've used by far
is NPA/w and EW (EW diluted to PCC strength). As I posted elsewhere recently, it wasn't an immediate response, it
took awhile, but once it got to working...it was perfect for what I was looking for. Randa
SweetBrenda
08-10-2004, 05:08 PM
I just bought
EW, and have tried adding it to various perfume samples that I got from the store. It still smells bad, but it's
bearable. I don't think it smells like pussy, I think it smells like really stinky feet! Yesterday I went to put on
some of one of the perfume samples, I had it on my fingers, and it smelled so bad I put it on my ankles....I mean,
if it smells like stinky feet, it might as well be down there. Anyway, I had to wash my hands before being around
anyone. Glad I didn't test the Beta!
BTW, my husband and I have been married almost 19 years, and our love
making is VERY passionate. Pheromones have helped some. So take heart, it can happen if you want it to. We have
both been making a concerted effort to keep the passion alive.
Bindy:box:wow 19 yrs !! and still having
"passionate sex" :wub: is good to read this for people like me who thinks romance dies after been with someone for
quite a while..yayy for the phermones! Right on! :thumbsup:
My respects to you!
lyric820
08-10-2004, 07:08 PM
Well Dang it!! That settles
it! I'm gonna do the vanilla sugar cream and EW. I might just add two more drops than Randa's mix. Mostly because
the body cream smell is very strong and it might cover the EW better than I thought. I'm feelin a bit adventurous
and a bit frisky so I'm hoping this works...gonna give it a couple weeks and see if the man gets that shine in his
eyes again. I also got some Pheremone Factor, the edge and soe gel packs in the cart for good measure. This should
be a good start...I'll add a bit moreto my arsenal as I go along. If all goes decently, I could be in this trip
for the long haul. Ha Ha Ha The World is Mine!!!!! Thanks everyone for your great posts!!
BassMan
08-10-2004, 08:36 PM
Well Dang it!!
That settles it! I'm gonna do the vanilla sugar cream and EW. I might just add two more drops than Randa's mix.
Mostly because the body cream smell is very strong and it might cover the EW better than I thought. I'm feelin a
bit adventurous and a bit frisky so I'm hoping this works...gonna give it a couple weeks and see if the man gets
that shine in his eyes again. I also got some Pheremone Factor, the edge and soe gel packs in the cart for good
measure. This should be a good start...I'll add a bit moreto my arsenal as I go along. If all goes decently, I
could be in this trip for the long haul. Ha Ha Ha The World is Mine!!!!! Thanks everyone for your great
posts!!One of the things that I remember about the original EW experiment was that the odor of EW died down
over time when it was added to something water-based. If you want to play with that, you might add some to your
cream, mix it up good, wait a week, and see if it changes. You might get away with adding a bit more if you let it
blend some.
You wouldn't necessarily have to wait a week until you tried wearing it, of course.
-Bass
bindy
08-11-2004, 10:34 AM
Hey SweetBrenda,
We've had our
ups and downs with passion, but it's never died, that's for sure. We're going through a kind of renewal of our
passion, and it's much more.....well, passionate! 19 years seems like a long time, but it's gone by SO fast.
Fortunatel we're both young, so we have plenty of time to experiment with new stuff. Let's see how we're doing
with the passion over the next 19.
Bindy
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