View Full Version : Perception Arrived!!!
koolking1
07-31-2004, 08:33 AM
Wow, was that
ever fast shipping. Lucky day for me as we have a swapper's party to go tonight and I'll be able to test it for
everyone. The packaging is real nice, the bottles are nice, and the scent is the least detectable of any product
I've ordered so far. I've only had it for 5 mins now so if anyone has any questions I'll be around most of the
day and will check the forum from time to time. I won't be "testing" though till tonight as I put on some Chikara
and AE/m earlier this morning.
Bruce, never ever have I experienced such great customer service.
InternationalPlayboy
07-31-2004, 10:41 AM
Cool! Keep us
updated! I don't expect mine until Monday evening as I opted for regular mail, so I'm eagerly awaiting any reports
before then. If it's at least as good as Chikara Bruce has another winner!
Well I got mine but the fragrance
leaked on the box and inside the package. Now I have to send it back which sucks.
happyman
07-31-2004, 11:48 AM
Well I got mine but
the fragrance leaked on the box and inside the package. Now I have to send it back which sucks.
Me too.
Got mine but the fragrance part of it leaked out completely. So let me get this straight:One part is just plain old
pheromones with no added fragrance whatsoever, which is the clear spray bottle with a see through body and the other
bottle, which has a total black body is only a fragrance with no pheremones? I didn't know that at all when I was
ordering it. Is this so or do both bottles contain some pheromones? If not I guess they did it this way so you can
mix this pheromone (in the clear spray bottle) with your other colognes and not have to worry about any fragrances
clashing because the clear bottle, while having all the pheromones, is fragrance free? Is this so or am I confused
or missing something?
Happy
You are right in your assumption that
one is fragrance only, the other is pheromones only. How is the smell?
Bruce
07-31-2004, 12:14 PM
Guys with the leakers. Email me.
We'll work something out so you don't have to send the whole thing back.
Sorry about that,
Bruce
koolking1
07-31-2004, 12:31 PM
I ordered two units and
both are fine. On one of the "fragrance" bottles I detect no smell at all - so, zero leakage; on the other
"fragrance" bottle I can smell the scent on the outside of the bottle but there's no indication at all of any
leakage.
Chemo (BDC Concepts)
07-31-2004, 12:46 PM
Also, if you have a
unit that leaked or is otherwise compromised please send an email to quality@bdcconcepts.com so that
we may track and correct any problems.
Thank you and be sure to give some feedback!
Bobby
You are right in your
assumption that one is fragrance only, the other is pheromones only. How is the smell?
The fragrance
smells nice. One question, the one containing the Pheromones is it supposed to be half full? Looks like that might
have leaked also but I'm not sure.
koolking1
07-31-2004, 02:45 PM
Jose, all of my bottles are
completely full, both the scent and the mone bottles.
Jose, all of my
bottles are completely full, both the scent and the mone bottles.
Then it leaked, thanks Koolking. I
don't see 50 sprays coming out of that one that's why I asked.
Bruce
07-31-2004, 03:45 PM
Jose,
We'll send you another
whole set for free. Not to worry.
Bruce
Jose,
We'll send
you another whole set for free. Not to worry.
Bruce
Thank you Bruce.
dsade
07-31-2004, 07:55 PM
Got my order of Perception today
(excellent, excellent service).
Criticisms:
-Fragrance bottle leaks a bit
-Bottom case of pheremone not
attached - keeps coming apart when I try to open
- Shipping plain bottles in padded envelopes is cool - but you
spent money on a nice packaging box to hold the bottles - which was completely smashed by shipping in said padded
envelope. I would spring for shipping boxes, or figure out a soft packaging option.
Impressions:
All I can say
so far (still early in the evening) is that I was getting stares/smiles inside of the grocery store. The cashier was
quite chatty, and yet pretty embarrased since my girl was right there. My girl also would not stop touching me the
whole time. In line, her nose was fastened to my neck like a coke freak snorting lines.
The fragrance is
EXCELLENT. Very, very appealing. I recognize something vaguely similar, but I will have to keep jogging my memory
until I can recall - but it is unique; sweet smelling but not feminine.
OK..just some initial feedback. More to
come as I experiment a bit.
koolking1
07-31-2004, 10:53 PM
I really don't have as
much to report as I'd like to have. This was a new swinger party for us and the crowd was pretty much half our
age. I put on one spray of Perception to each lower arm and rubbed it in. Unlike what I initially stated, once it
was on me I really could smell it. Again, like with Chikara, Sue did not like the scent "too masculine". Well, I
had mighty strong impulses to add some SOE or AE or Chikara but for the sake of testing, left on the Perception as
is. There were about 10 other women there (poor turnout actually for this kind of thing), and as I said, much
younger than me which I don't care for in this type setting (I don't like to feel or act like a lech). Only one
woman there responded to me at all and it was a hit as she was 25 and pretty hot. I didn't make any move on her at
all, just talked - it was her 2nd swinger party and she wasn't quite ready for some of the steamier action anyways.
Now, a swinger party may not be the best place to test anyways as there are lots of smells of all sorts in the air.
Again, too, this was a young crowd and I'm 53 - pheromones or not, women that age need some sort of attraction and
older age usually isn't one of them (yes, there are exceptions but not as much as the young guy-older woman
scenario). So, at least for me, the jury is still out and tonight was not the success I had hoped it would be, but
I'll put the blame on the party/age differences. I will wear it again tomorrow in more normal everyday
situations.
On a brighter note, we did get the phone numbers of two couples there who said they would like
to see us again in a more personal setting.
A bit rambling but sorry, had a few beers and a J.
oscar
08-01-2004, 12:35 AM
.......I put on
one spray of Perception to each lower arm and rubbed it in. Unlike what I initially stated, once it was on me I
really could smell it.........
kk1,
I'm not as up on the formulational aspects of Perception as I
would like to be, but I'm wondering if your rubbing it in somehow compromised the intent of the product's
design.
Oscar :)
platinumfox
08-01-2004, 08:16 AM
Koolking I had a question why
were mones to a swingers party isnt everyone there horny anyway?Not being mean just curious.
koolking1
08-01-2004, 06:27 PM
Hi Platinum - well, good
question. Why wear mones to a swinger's party: Think of a school dance and 50 people standing around wondering
who to approach and then multiply that dilemna by 2 as it's generally all couples and you have to make some sort of
impression to get any action. Also, there will usually be 3-4 really hot women, 5-6 good lookers, 10-20 average
ones, and a whole bunch of really big, ugly, fat ones plus another bunch of just plain ordinary fat ones. I use the
mones in the hopes of landing in the lap of one of the better lookers but more importantly, if I do land one of the
sweeter ones, the mones on your chest and elsewhere work wonders in a sexual context (they tend to become fond of
you due to the mones) and they tend to want more of you at later meetings. I try to build for the future as being
seen with the good lookers only maximizes your chances that other good lookers will deem you desirable. Hope this
helps. By the way, I didn't fare too well last night, the crowd was half my age. And, not everyone who goes to a
swinger party is horny. Most are but some are not. I've gone to one or two in the past just to gauge the dynamics
of a certain party or, just to have a lot of beers and fun.
einstein
08-02-2004, 07:56 AM
I got my perception today. No
major leaks. The pheromone atomizer was in perfect condition. The fragrance one was slimy under the cap, but full.
The scent is familiar, but I can't figure out what either. Smells good. Been on my skin for 10 minutes and
hasn't fully dried, but doesn't itch. Scent seems weaker, more subtle than most colognes I've got.
I love
the instructions, says everything that needs said. Has the answers to all the newbie questions. Hope they read it
before they post on here. Almost didn't notice them though, thought it was just part of the package to hold the
little atomizer.
BDC_Concepts
08-02-2004, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the feedback thus
far. Can't wait to hear more field results!
Thanks
Matt
koolking1
08-02-2004, 11:33 AM
today I sprayed (one each,
lower arm) the mones and the scent - I like the scent!! I did not wear any cover scent the other night at the
party, just went with the straight mones. Went to the supermarket and had two hits, woman in line (mid 30s,
attractive) ahead of me kept looking at me and smiling; deli lady (mid 40s) practically leapt over the counter, big
grin, we chatted briefly (not exactly my type but shaggable). She's also reacted well to other mones such as
Chikara and AE/m in the past. I did not rub it in this time but just spread it around a little.
nonscents
08-02-2004, 01:00 PM
I got mine in the mail this
morning but didn't use it until about 2 minutes ago.
The large atomizer has something floating in it. There is a
piece of something translucent, maybe plastic wrap? If it were stretched out I am guessing its dimensions would
approximate 3/4"X3/16". It's kind of u-shaped and it floats near the surface of the liquid.
My impression of
the mechanics are that both atomizers deliver too large a dose. Maybe next time I can hold them farther away from
me. After priming the pump, both atomizers delivered a huge spritz that started dripping and running along my
forearms.
Here's my question: I know that if I use traditional pheromones I should apply them and let them dry
off prior to applying Perception, to minimize the dreaded flux factor. But does order of application make a
difference when applying Perception pheromones and Perception fragrance? I applied the pheromones and then the
fragrance since that is what the directions seemed to imply. And a cover scent would have to come after that which
it is covering. But would any harm have been done if the cover fragrance of Perception were applied prior to the
Perception pheromones?
BDC_Concepts
08-02-2004, 02:08 PM
The
large atomizer has something floating in it. There is a piece of something translucent, maybe plastic wrap? If it
were stretched out I am guessing its dimensions would approximate 3/4"X3/16". It's kind of u-shaped and it floats
near the surface of the liquid.
Floating??? Hmmm, can't even imagine what that is. I'd say, take
it out and let us know, cause that baffles me entirely. The odds off something getting into the bottle during
production are extremely rare. Please PM me and let me know what you find.
My
impression of the mechanics are that both atomizers deliver too large a dose. Maybe next time I can hold them
farther away from me. After priming the pump, both atomizers delivered a huge spritz that started dripping and
running along my forearms.
We are finding that the gold release atomizers deliver quite a hefty dose
with one spray! :D. You can clearly just go with 1 spray or as you mentioned, back it up a bit. Part of the 2
spray recommendation took into consideration that when people spray, they usually don't get 100%
contact.
Here's my question: I know that if I use traditional pheromones I should
apply them and let them dry off prior to applying Perception, to minimize the dreaded flux factor. But does order of
application make a difference when applying Perception pheromones and Perception fragrance? I applied the pheromones
and then the fragrance since that is what the directions seemed to imply. And a cover scent would have to come after
that which it is covering. But would any harm have been done if the cover fragrance of Perception were applied prior
to the Perception pheromones?
No, both the pheromone matrix and scented atomizers are water based
avoiding transdermal uptake. You can apply them however you'd like.
I am glad to see people are receving
some interesting reactions despite the gold release atomizer issues! The more we look at it as a company, the
happier we are that we separated the first release to guage feedback. Unfortunately, little did we know that there
was an issue with the gold trim atomizers. That being said, we still stand for what we always have, and that is to
deliver a quality product. We appreciate the feedback we are getting back so that we can correct ALL issues for the
Platinum release which is coming shortly. And on that note.... it seems like grocery stores are the places to look
for hits? hahaha, well...at least on this thread :D J/k
koolking1
08-02-2004, 02:22 PM
yes Matt, grocery stores
are the best places, best in the daytime and not around 5PM - those women just got off work and are in a big hurry,
no time to smell anything!!! I like it when there's a line at the seafood counter as I know a good bit about
seafood and can "help" the other customers (well, only if they are female and at least somewhat attractive).
I also think the dosage is on the high side, one spray of perception is equal to about 2 sprays of Chikara
in volume.
metroman
08-02-2004, 04:05 PM
Perception arrived today!...no
leakage, full bottles, box is in good shape...Looks like a great product so far...:)
metroman
08-02-2004, 04:43 PM
Question: Is there going to be
any tweaking of the mone matrix formula itself between the Gold to the Platinum editions? Or are you just making
adjustments to the packaging and spray head?
BDC_Concepts
08-02-2004, 05:04 PM
Question:
Is there going to be any tweaking of the mone matrix formula itself between the Gold to the Platinum editions? Or
are you just making adjustments to the packaging and spray head?
Good question. When developing we
felt very confident about both the matrix and pheromone ratio based on our research and testing. We anticipate not
changing the "liquids", but clearly the atomizers will be altered. It is important that I note we obviously did not
blindly toss things together and hope for the best, but truely wanted to allow for and PROVIDE the ability to be a
dynamic business, catering to the needs of the pheromone community. This was the logic and intent behind an initial
physical separation of the product appearance (hence the ease of distinguishing) and thus proving to be an effective
tool as we recognize very much in just these few initial posts! :)
Unknownshadow21
08-02-2004, 05:17 PM
Just got my bottle I
have to say everything looks perfect. The fragrance which I thought I wasn't going to like, is so perfect, very
subtle not in your face at all. It reminds me of a super light version of "Acqua di gio" but with more vanilla. So
far I went to the store and got a few looks. I think perception is going to be a hit, along with its fragrance. Good
job guys at BDC.:hammer:
ManBeast
08-02-2004, 05:50 PM
Mine came in today, no problems
whatsoever. Look forward to trying this one out.
MB
InternationalPlayboy
08-02-2004, 06:56 PM
Mailman *finally*
just stopped at my house and had the Perception package with him. The box was in pretty good shape for being packed
in an envelope. Still had square edges but the front and back had kind of formed double concave shapes. I think the
divider helped keep the box from completely crushing around the atomizers.
My first thought upon opening the
package was that I thought I could smell fragrance. The spray heads of both atomizers were damp. The fragrance level
starts about 1 inch from the the top of the glass jar with the sprayhead removed and the pheromone level is about
3/4 of an inch from the top of it's jar. Upon opening the directions, I found a small stain on the
paper.
Before I remembered there were directions included, I sprayed the pheromones on my arm. Being
sensitive to none, I didn't really smell that but thought it smelled like no pheromone product I've tried. It had
a strange, "mildew-like" scent to me. Only noticable when puting my nose right up to the application area, so it's
not offensive.
I like the cover scent. Like others stated, it's familiar to me but I can't place it. The
closest I can come right now is kind of a "clean" scent, like someone who just showered. With Chikara and Pheros
just about tied for my favorite scent, I would rate this a close second and above the Ralph Lauren Romance Silver I
bought right before Pheros was announced. (If only I knew then that there were to be so many good products to be
released here so close together, I would have waited on the RL Silver.) The fragrance rates in quality to those I
sampled in the department store at the time I bought the RL Silver. I also like the inclusion of the directions in
the package and think they are well written.
Again, just like Pheros and Chikara, I find myself repeatedly
smelling the application area.
I too, think the sprays are a little heavy, especially after getting use to
the delicate poof from Chikara's atomizer. I stopped using the 10ml atomizer I got here with a newbie's special a
few years ago because the spray was so big and forsake it for some 5ml atomizers I found through a link in the
archives. Even the 5ml spray with Perception seems bigger than those. My opinion may be tainted by Chikara's spray
though as I really like it's output. I do like the ease in removing the containers from their outer case. I have a
couple of 5ml atomizers I got with Realm sets that are sometimes difficult to open.
as I typed the above, I
noticed that the fragrance has blended a bit and a close sniff reveals the pheromone smell I described above. My dad
happens to be here right now and as I walked passed him to get a ruler to measure the airspace in the atomizers, he
coughed and I thought he muttered something. But he's sensitive to scents all together. We used to go round and
round when I was a teenage hippie about my burning incense, though he smoked back then, thus forcing the rest of the
family to breathe in his tobacco fumes. But I digress.
First impressions are good. I feel a bit of an uplift
wearing Perception. I like that in a pheromone product, unlike the apprehension, irritation, impatience, and
self-consciousness I often feel wearing a heavy none product. Though there aren't many women in my area at work to
try it on, I think I may wear one spray of each container to work tomorrow. Because of the way it makes me feel and
the fact I don't smell a heavy none content, I think it will be safe to do so.
BDC_Concepts
08-02-2004, 07:46 PM
Excellent feedback Iplayboy.
With the gold release, we noticed an increase in volume through the sprayhead. No harm with going w/ a double
spray, but unlike our platinum's (yes we have already started work based on the 2 days of feedback :D) , we've
found the volume is exceeding .1mL. The platinum should have a more accurate metered delivery. Feel free to run
it, if you'd like, with 1 spray and adjust accordingly over time. Nonetheless, with a lighter none ratio and
consistant delivery rates (our proprietary matrix), we are running even less risk of OD. I'm very enthusiastic
about the uplift you noticed when applying as I have heard that from a few testers including myself! Credit where
it's due, Chikara had a very strong effect in this area when I first started using it. Overall, we couldn't be
pleased more to hear people having a good time thus far using Perception. Here's to the Love-Scent
community!
Thanks
Matt
BassMan
08-03-2004, 09:29 AM
(Bruce, I've already emailed you
about this).
Got my Perception today. The entire bottle of scent leaked into the packaging (the bottle was
completely empty). The phero bottle was maybe 4/5ths full. The instructions and box were soaked and ruined.
Interesting, with that much of the scent in the packaging, I would have expected it to really stink, but the scent
wasn't that strong. Perhaps the scent is heat-activated?
I put 1/2 a spray on my arm. It smells fairly
strongly. I get the "mildew-like" impression too. Does it smell like that when you make it? Alcohol serves as a
preservative in perfume... I put on some Curve a couple of inches away to cover the smell.
Time-release is good
- it's been a couple of hours and the pheros smell (close to) the same as when I put them on.
I've had fairly
bad luck with that sort of atomizer in the past - they tend to vibrate loose even in my pocket. I'm not surprised
they are leaking in the mail.
-Bass
I have a opportunity to use this
tomorrow on a blind date situation, will keep you posted. Someone mentioned this before but boxes would be better
than packages for sending Perception through the mail, sounds like a good suggestion to me to avoid leakage.
SweetBrenda
08-03-2004, 09:50 AM
I have a
opportunity to use this tomorrow on a blind date situation, will keep you posted. Someone mentioned this before but
boxes would be better than packages for sending Perception through the mail, sounds like a good suggestion to mean
to avoid leakage.Hey Jose!good luck on the blind date. :thumbsup:
btw is so nice to see you aeound
the forum again!
xxx
Brenda
InternationalPlayboy
08-03-2004, 09:51 AM
Interesting, with that much of the scent in the packaging, I would have expected it to really
stink, but the scent wasn't that strong. Perhaps the scent is heat-activated?
-Bass
I did my
trial spray last night around 6PM. Getting ready for work around 3:30 AM this morning, I smelled my arm before
washing and noticed that the scent was still there and still smelled good.
Before dressing, I did about a
spray and a half of the pheromone on my chest (the first spray was kind of half-assed) and rubbed it around with my
forearms. I then Applied one spray of the cologne, thought I couldn't smell anything, then added more to the chest
and one to the arms, think it was a total of four sprays of the cologne. Still didn't smell much.
Driving in
my car with the A/C on to work, I started to notice the scent of the cologne. Sitting here now, at about 9:43 AM, I
can really smell it coming off my chest. My concern now is that I'm "too much cologne man."
Not much to
report yet on reactions. Been a slow day and haven't interacted with many people. I still feel an uplift wearing it
and seem talkative when given the opportunity. Only female I've encountered is an older woman who's friendly to me
anyway. When she passed me first thing this morning, she turned her head away from me when greeting me. A
couple of minutes later, we were at the coffee area at the same time, I was leaving as she arrived. She had a
saddish smile but I didn't notice anything really different. I attributed the sad smile to her son having health
problems. She was away last week to take him to doctors in San Deigo.
My main concern about the cologne is
that it will run out much sooner than the pheromone spray will. I would like to see a refill bottle of just the
cologne offered for sale apart from the Perception kit.
DAdams91982
08-03-2004, 09:56 AM
Just waiting for my
perception order.... damn miltary mail taking so long.
Adams
BDC_Concepts
08-03-2004, 10:26 AM
Driving in my car with the A/C on to work, I started to notice the scent of the
cologne. Sitting here now, at about 9:43 AM, I can really smell it coming off my chest. My concern now is that I'm
"too much cologne man.".
LOL! You all aren't used to water based fragrance products hahahah. Yes,
they don't tend to blow you away like a traditional ethanol fragrance as soon as you spray it, so after a fun laugh
(well at least I did), everyone can learn from InternationalPlayboy :D
My
main concern about the cologne is that it will run out much sooner than the pheromone spray will. I would like to
see a refill bottle of just the cologne offered for sale apart from the Perception kit.
If you use
Perception fragrance every time you apply the pheromone mix, you will surely run out of the fragrance faster. We
lessened the amount of the fragrance to cater to the crowd that likes to mix things up with scents, prefers their
own fragrance, or simply, doesn't like ours. The separation of the two atomizers was clearly to allow pheromone
dosing to be independent of a fragrance. If there is enough interest and people are really fond of the fragrance
(ie - almost always using it with the pheromone atomizer), we will definitely take that into consideration and come
up with something accordingly!
Thanks again
InternationalPlayboy
08-03-2004, 10:49 AM
LOL! You all aren't used to water based fragrance products hahahah. Yes, they don't tend to
blow you away like a traditional ethanol fragrance as soon as you spray it, so after a fun laugh (well at least I
did), everyone can learn from InternationalPlayboy :D
Glad to give you a laugh.
:)
If you use Perception fragrance every time you apply the pheromone mix, you will surely run
out of the fragrance faster. We lessened the amount of the fragrance to cater to the crowd that likes to mix things
up with scents, prefers their own fragrance, or simply, doesn't like ours. The separation of the two atomizers was
clearly to allow pheromone dosing to be independent of a fragrance. If there is enough interest and people are
really fond of the fragrance (ie - almost always using it with the pheromone atomizer), we will definitely take that
into consideration and come up with something accordingly!
Thanks again
I understand and
appreciate the logic behind the two atomizers. I like the option of using a different scent with the product and
have opted for unscented versions of most of the stuff I've bought here in the past. It's just since I decided I
like the fragrance, I saw that I could use it up a bit quicker than I expected, so I thought I'd throw the
suggestion out there.
Unknownshadow21
08-03-2004, 10:51 AM
If
you use Perception fragrance every time you apply the pheromone mix, you will surely run out of the fragrance
faster. We lessened the amount of the fragrance to cater to the crowd that likes to mix things up with scents,
prefers their own fragrance, or simply, doesn't like ours. The separation of the two atomizers was clearly to allow
pheromone dosing to be independent of a fragrance. If there is enough interest and people are really fond of the
fragrance (ie - almost always using it with the pheromone atomizer), we will definitely take that into consideration
and come up with something accordingly!
Thanks again
Like I said before I didn't think I was going
to like the scent at all. When I finally spray it on I was amazed. Is probably the best scent for anyone who
doesn't really like cologne but like to smell good. I would definitely buy the fragrance alone. As for the
pheromones effects on me, I am noticing a uplift feeling when wearing it.
koolking1
08-04-2004, 08:42 PM
put some on again today
with the cover scent (one spray of each to the lower arms and gently spread out a bit). I then added one drop each
side on top of that of NPA and gently worked that in too. I went to do my daily shopping at the usual grocery store
and again was greeted enthusiastically by the "deli lady". All smiles again, just so happy to see me. I didn't
get any other action but it was slow and few people in the store. Sue, my girlfriend, got home and she started
cleaning house and I went out to BBQ some fish. When we were both done we sat down to eat, normal conversation,
normal everything for that matter, but afterwards we watched TV a bit but she wasn't looking at the TV, she just
kept looking at me for the longest time, trancelike. After a while she stopped and then went to listen to some
music. She was definitely in some kind of "state". She later mentioned to me that she felt like she was losing
her sex drive except for me. She's getting older I suppose or the mones are getting to her.
tiger1ndc
08-04-2004, 11:37 PM
This stuff rocks!
I received
my Perception on Monday and it arrived fine. No leakage or anything. I work in retail management and was scheduled
to work some overtime at another store on Wednesday so I decided to test it out. I sprayed one of each (mones and
fragrance) on my chest and rubbed it in with the inside of my wrists. The staff was extra friendly and helpful,
especially the girls. The guys seemed to give me a lot of respect, like I was the alpha male or something, and I
wasn’t even supervising them. Very weird. Even the male customers that I helped were extra nice even though they
were obviously frustrated when they first approached me for assistance. One guy even gave me a tip!
Now for the
good part. One girl that I was helping (7/10) who I could tell was having a bad day, started flirting with me out of
the blue. After I cracked a few jokes with her and made her laugh I asked for her number (totally out of character
for me) and she gave it to me without hesitation! (yeah) Then when I got to my store later that evening for the
night shift a young cutie in a mini skirt came in on her way to the club. As I was helping her I commented on how
good she smelled and she laughed and said that she was thinking the same thing about me. Since I was having a good
day I asked for her number too and sure enough she wrote it down without hesitation.
I’m 35 years old, 5’9,
average build and these girls are in their early to mid twenties. I’ve used mones on and off for a few years but
never with this kind of response. Perception seems to give me a nice boost of confidence too when I’m wearing it.
And the scent lasts a long time. I applied it over 12 hours ago and can still smell it on my wrists. This stuff
rocks!
BDC_Concepts
08-05-2004, 12:02 AM
This stuff
rocks!
I received my Perception on Monday and it arrived fine. No leakage or anything. I work in retail
management and was scheduled to work some overtime at another store on Wednesday so I decided to test it out. I
sprayed one of each (mones and fragrance) on my chest and rubbed it in with the inside of my wrists. The staff was
extra friendly and helpful, especially the girls. The guys seemed to give me a lot of respect, like I was the alpha
male or something, and I wasn’t even supervising them. Very weird. Even the male customers that I helped were extra
nice even though they were obviously frustrated when they first approached me for assistance. One guy even gave me a
tip!
Now for the good part. One girl that I was helping (7/10) who I could tell was having a bad day,
started flirting with me out of the blue. After I cracked a few jokes with her and made her laugh I asked for her
number (totally out of character for me) and she gave it to me without hesitation! (yeah) Then when I got to my
store later that evening for the night shift a young cutie in a mini skirt came in on her way to the club. As I was
helping her I commented on how good she smelled and she laughed and said that she was thinking the same thing about
me. Since I was having a good day I asked for her number too and sure enough she wrote it down without
hesitation.
I’m 35 years old, 5’9, average build and these girls are in their early to mid twenties. I’ve
used mones on and off for a few years but never with this kind of response. Perception seems to give me a nice boost
of confidence too when I’m wearing it. And the scent lasts a long time. I applied it over 12 hours ago and can still
smell it on my wrists. This stuff rocks!
Awesome feedback!! Gotta love that extended release! We
wish the best of luck with the new number! Call her up, wear some Perception and let us know what happens if you
can get her to go out.
Thanks
A couple I know wanted to set me up
with one of their friends and from their description she sounded interesting. So I called her up and we decided to
meet at a restaurant/bar. Good-looking girl nice figure. She did seem kind of nervous at first, but I said a few
things that made her laugh and kept it light. There was no DITHL or a obvious sexual hit but I felt Perception was
working. One strange event I noticed, the waitress kept coming over every 15 minutes or so(or at least it felt like
it) asking if we were ok or wanted anything else. It was a short date because she had to work that evening so I
walked her to her car and that was it. I received an email this morning saying she had a good time and if I wanted
to do something this weekend. I wore two sprays of Perception on the neck, applied it one-hour before meeting her.
BassMan
08-05-2004, 07:17 AM
Got my Perception
today. The entire bottle of scent leaked into the packaging (the bottle was completely empty). The phero bottle was
maybe 4/5ths full. The instructions and box were soaked and ruined.
I put 1/2 a spray on my arm. It smells
fairly strongly. I get the "mildew-like" impression too. Does it smell like that when you make it?
-Bass
Couple of updates, as I had a little time to play around:
The scent atomizer leaked because
the threads are stripped and it won't tighten completely - it just keeps turning and turning. I've had more than a
few of these atomizers with this problem.
As I suspected, the mildewy smell of the initial spray of the phero
atomizer was from material in the spray head that had soured. I dumped the contents of the pheros atomizer into a 2
dram bottle, as I didn't trust the atomizer with $50 worth of pheros after the other one leaked so badly. I've
been dabbing. The remaining phero mix has pretty much the smell one would expect of its components, and the mildewy
smell isn't there.
- Bass
einstein
08-05-2004, 12:41 PM
The spray head on my pheromone
atomizer is a little funny. Acts like the shaft is kinda bent. If I put my finger in the middle to press down, it
jams up. If I put my finger on the right side, it goes down and sprays fine.
SwingerMD
08-05-2004, 04:50 PM
Just got mine in today and I
plan on using it tonight at the dance. The fragarence atomizer is leaking a bit, the other one is fine.
____________________
-SwingerMD
burgerama1960
08-05-2004, 07:26 PM
I want to order perception
so badly but I am afraid of getting a leaker. Maybe by putting tape around the bottles to keep the gizmo from
unscrewing would help get the product to its destination safer. just a thought.
BassMan
08-05-2004, 08:18 PM
Couple of updates,
as I had a little time to play around:
- Bass
Perception Redux --
Do I _always_ have to get the bad
one??
After emailing Bruce about the leak problem, he immediately sent out another set. I got it (here in
Florida) the next day!
Bruce, you are awesome!
Unfortunately, the pheromone atomizer was empty. The package
was soaked. The head wasn't screwed on the bottle. Must have come loose in shipment.
- Bass
koolking1
08-05-2004, 08:20 PM
Bruce, whoever said being
in busines was gonna be easy.
got a feeling that dried chikara
covered with 2 sprays of perception without scent might be a definite winner. Can't wait.
oscar
08-07-2004, 07:30 PM
Gents,
My Perception arrived
yesterday. Given the stories of leakage I sniffed the mailer as soon as I slit it open. No smell of pheromones or
fragrance. The box was encircled with bubble-wrap, and it was in nearly perfect condition. Just the slightest dimple
on one corner of the bottom of the box. Opened the box and again, no detectable smell of either component.
Instruction sheet was dry, un-stained, and virtually scent-free.
I removed the larger (phero) atomizer and
pulled off both sections of its outer casing. No moisture in either the lid or the bottom sleeve. Just the slightest
nuance of phero scent in the lid.
Inverting the atomizer to check the level, I see that there's only a little
less than 1/4 inch (@.5 cm) of air in there. Knowing this type of atomizer I'll assume that this means that it's
full or very close to it, and having had experience with them in the past I decide NOT to unscrew the spray head
from the vial. This often begins the stripping of the threads, thus hastening the atomizer's demise.
Unlike the
phero atomizer which seems to have fared very well in transit, the fragrance vessel has some liquid in the bottom
sleeve and on the vial. There is a little more than 3/8 inch (@ 1 cm) of air showing in the vial when inverted,
leading me to estimate that perhaps as much as .5mL had seeped out, maybe a bit less.
Since it's been at least
90% efficient in holding its contents in transit, even when laying on its side, I again decide against removing the
spray head in order to maintain the threads' integrity.
Both spray heads behaved almost identically when
tested.
First spray: A few tiny droplets.
Second spray: A straight "stream" of liquid.
Third spray: A healthy
sized*, nicely atomized spray. (In the case of the 10mL, similar in volume I would estimate, to the amount delivered
by a TE sprayer.)
* By "healthy sized" I mean HUGE!
Perception's 10mL atomizer compares almost exactly in all
visible aspects to the one that comes with the P10 package. That one is designed to deliver 65 sprays per 10 mL of
contents. That's about .15mL per spray of delivered product. IF that IS how much Perception's atomizer is
delivering, two sprays would amount to an A-None overdose of .03mg. I'm hoping that's not the case here.
It
might be a good idea for someone who has removed their Perception from a leaky atomizer to test to see just how many
sprays the thing will dispense when filled with 10mL of water. Any volunteers?
Oscar :)
happyman
08-08-2004, 02:04 AM
Mixed just a average spray of
Perception unscented on the top of the chest with two and a half "rolls from a roll on top" of scented SOE on ears
and hair around ears. Got very good results. At the book store a group of young girls (too young to think about,
like 16) pretended to look at paintings right above my table for like 3 or 4 minutes and chatted it up like right
above me so I could look up and say something to one of them. It was Sooooo obvious. Then cashier at Giant Eagle
started talking and talking and talking and asked my age and where I was from. She was leaning into me. Could tell
she was interested but I wasn't in her (isn't that always how it is lol, damn) and she was 36. I spayed Perception
on my index finger and then rubbed it into my chest. Is that ok to do? Do you still get the same effect as a spray
on the chest? You must cause it worked for me. I know it may seem I could possibly be reading into some things but
if you would of been there you would of been able to see it plain as day. The Book Store and all night Supermarket
were the only places I went all day or I may have gotten more.
I Thought I should report my day. Anyone eles
having perception success? and what were the hits like? My hits seemed to attach them to you or draw them close to
me. Kinda sexual, kinda in sink, real talkative but not so much happy/laughy talkative as with straight SOE.
Happy
InternationalPlayboy
08-09-2004, 06:40 AM
As I suspected, the mildewy smell of the initial spray of the phero atomizer was from material in the spray head
that had soured. I dumped the contents of the pheros atomizer into a 2 dram bottle, as I didn't trust the atomizer
with $50 worth of pheros after the other one leaked so badly. I've been dabbing. The remaining phero mix has pretty
much the smell one would expect of its components, and the mildewy smell isn't there.
-
Bass
I haven't noticed any more "mildew" after the first day or two of usage. The spray from the
large atomizer now smells like a more traditional unscented pheromone product to me, so you may have been
right.
Not much to report yet. I live in such a backwater town that I sometimes think that except for the
feeling of well being I get from wearing mones, heavy none products excepted, that it's a waste of inventory to
wear them around here. Friday, there was a little bit of reaction though. I did two sprays (first was a 'starter'
spray) of the big atomizer on my chest and dabs behind each ear and on the wrist, followed by a spray from the
fragrance atomizer on the chest and dabs where I dabbed the pheromones.
At the bookstore, there was one woman
who walked between me and the book shelves I was looking at a couple of times. At the Starbucks area while I was
waiting for my order, she again walked between me and the counter to make an order, while excusing herself for going
in through the end of the line instead of the start. She then turned and looked at me as I had kind of ignored her
as she passed.
Today, I'm wearing the pheromone product with Ralph Lauren Silver Romance as I can see a
noticable depletion of the fluid level in the small Perception fragrance atomizer each time I use it. I like the
scent a lot and don't want to use it all up so quickly.
BDC_Concepts
08-09-2004, 06:58 PM
To make a quick response,
the "mildew" type of smell is due to the polymer as it relates to our unique water based formula. After the product
is applied and dries on the skin, the scent will be distinctly pheromones. Personally, I can't detect the scent of
mildew myself (even after checking 10 bottles here and looking for variation). This is probably to say your
olfactory system is better than mine :D, but nothing to fear, the smell is that of the product doing its work and
will not be detected by others as it becomes dry on the skin quite rapidly.
Thank you
BassMan
08-09-2004, 08:10 PM
but nothing to
fear, the smell is that of the product doing its work and will not be detected by others as it becomes dry on the
skin quite rapidly.
Ok, then. 3-luck charm: Bruce sent me yet another package. This one came in fine -
no detectable leakage from the pheros, only a very slight leakage from the scent, not even enough to wet the box.
I had a bit more time than sense tonight - and a couple of extra atomizers, so I measured spray volume. This is
for tap water - I assume the difference in physical properties caused by the polymer will result in some small but
measurable difference...
10 ml as measured by my Cheap Plastic Syringe (tm) fills the large atomizer to just
where the top of the meniscus touches the shoulder of the bottle.
I did three trials and got 82, 80, and 82
sprays for 10 ml. Repeatable little bugger. If we average that, we get 0.123 ml/spray - a bit heavier than planned,
but I think we've all noticed that.
That works out to about 0.025 nol, 0.0125 none, 0.0125 rone per spray
(rounding to something that's easy to remember).
It feels stronger than that, BTW. Perhaps because of the
water-based formulation? I'm going to squirt enough on to get 20ug of none on me tomorrow and wear it to work.
Should be interesting.
-Bass
jamesdeanmartin
08-10-2004, 04:27 PM
Just wanted to add that I
got perception with no leakage problems.
The smell is interesting. I just discovered the inside panel has
instructions :-)
Apparently I've been applying the scent and not the pheromone filled container, for some
reason I had them reversed.
Will be out tonight with a lady friend (this time actually using the mones) and
we'll see what happens.
BDC_Concepts
08-10-2004, 04:53 PM
Just
wanted to add that I got perception with no leakage problems.
The smell is interesting. I just discovered the
inside panel has instructions :-)
Apparently I've been applying the scent and not the pheromone filled
container, for some reason I had them reversed.
Will be out tonight with a lady friend (this time actually
using the mones) and we'll see what happens.
Thanks for the feedback. Hmm, you were using one
atomizer and not the other? I thought that everyone was aware of the instructions but maybe its a good idea for us
in the future to point that out on the outside of the box. That way there won't be any future confusion.
How does Perception compare to
Chikara? Do they give the same results or is one better at sexual hits?
THey are different products with
different pheromones. Apples and oranges.
Freakboy2000
08-11-2004, 08:49 PM
I tried to read all the
above posts, but if I missed this question its ok to bludgeon me.
I got my Perception in the mail today in
perfect condition(thanks guys) and I'm really stoked. The only question I have it, since one bottle it just
cologne.. do I have to use it? I normally get comments if I decide to wear my normal cologne and wouldn't see a
real reason to change it if I didn't have to. I just wasn't sure if they had to go together or not.
Thanks
in advance
ManBeast
08-11-2004, 11:17 PM
No you don't have to use the
cologne, it is a very nice scent though, just be careful not to spray a normal alcohol based cologne over the water
based perception or you might loose some of the polymer's effectiveness.
MB
InternationalPlayboy
08-12-2004, 06:46 AM
I tried to read all the above posts, but if I missed this question its ok to bludgeon me.
I got my Perception in the mail today in perfect condition(thanks guys) and I'm really stoked. The only
question I have it, since one bottle it just cologne.. do I have to use it? I normally get comments if I decide to
wear my normal cologne and wouldn't see a real reason to change it if I didn't have to. I just wasn't sure if
they had to go together or not.
Thanks in advance
That's the reason Perception comes in
two separate atomizers. To give you the option of using other colognes with it instead of being stuck with just one
scent.
cuddlebear
08-12-2004, 03:54 PM
I think I'm going to play it
safe and use the supplied water based scent ... one thing I don't want is for an alcohol based fragrance to defeat
the purpose of the time-release aspect of Perception ...
real_wiseman
08-13-2004, 07:10 AM
How about using an oil-based
scent, ie an essential oils mix dilluted in carrier oil?
// W
InternationalPlayboy
08-14-2004, 10:46 PM
Didn't use any
mones yesterday as my car was in the shop for maintenance and I figured it would be a waste to wear them if I
couldn't go anywhere. Today, I did three sprays of Perception's pheromone product and two of the fragrance.
Probably over did the pheromones, the first spray's output was kind of wimpy but I noticed the runny effect with
the other two. Went and made my shopping rounds I missed on Friday.
Observed reactions from others ranged
from indifference to a couple of cashiers giving me DIHL looks, with one acting confused and "fumbly."
I
went to a bank in a grocery store to cash a huge check. After experiencing the credit card fraud that happened to me
in June, I've decided to pay off all my cards and close some of the accounts. I really don't need 3 Visa cards.
Anyway I had applied for a 401(k) loan to do so, and the check arrived yesterday. The bank clerk was male and seemed
a little flustered by the transaction. Now my check was over the limit for a daily deposit and required approval
from a manager, who had to come over twice to make entries into the computer before the deposit was completed, so
that may have been a factor. But the clerk I made the transaction with seemed very respectful to me.
Speaking
of respect, I also got a "thank you sir" when I held a door open for a woman at the post office. Also, while
buying stamps at the machine there, a woman came up behind me and stood too close for my comfort. My main complaint
about that was that she reeked of cigarette smoke. (I've noticed that when I wear SOE, people stand inside my
comfort zone when I'm in standing a line more often than when I'm not wearing it. I wonder now if that will be
common with Perception too.)
The best potential hit though, was in the grocery. I was toward the end of an
asile, looking at the canned tuna, etc. A woman in her early to mid 20s walked past me, then stopped dead in her
tracks at the end of the aisle, about five feet away. She looked like she forgot where she was going and just stood
there for about 20 - 30 seconds before finally moving on.
I think I tried the heavier application today
because I have only been wearing one spray at work. Again, I was a little disappointed in the targets my town has to
offer. I don't see many women in my target group, 35 - 45 year olds, out on their own. Most of the ones I see are
really young or really old. And as for the younger ones, they are usually with husbands and/or children, which I
think may make them hide their reactions, as to not cause trouble with their spouses.
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