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**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 09:07 PM
I\'ve tried this before but now that everyone\'s back this is what I want to know...

Sperate from my other hits post, tell me your stories about things that have happened to you at work (or school) regarding phero use. I\'m very interested in how your boss (or teachers) treat you especially if it\'s a woman and even what happened when you ODed.

Has anyone been harassed? Well I guess it\'s not harrassment if you want it images/icons/smile.gif but you know what I mean.

Also how have perceptions of you changed at work?

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 09:14 PM
That is the main area of change, i get the staff coming around just for a wonder ** i get listened to and if i say something that i feel needs changing then it gets fixed it seems very quickly, i get respect but i use that to try and get everyone working better together the area i work in runs very smootly and problems that do arise are dealt with without personalities a bit like this forum seeing as though this is probably the biggest collection of alpha males anywhere in the planet lol images/icons/laugh.gif anything we do here is top of the shelf and things progress quickly as a result of little politcal type of activiety i wish the big wide world was more like this. But yeah it makes things way easier anyone else got anything to add, weve got writers musicaians and casino security types as well as many others i think even a phero retailer (bruce lol)

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 09:22 PM
Got a particular story about a time when using the mones really made it happen for you?

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 09:27 PM
i got my current job for one

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 09:36 PM
Well I guess that says it all. I\'m supposed to go to an interview soon. Bet I\'ll have mine on.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 09:41 PM
Good idea jambat gives us your feedback

**DONOTDELETE**
10-20-2001, 10:35 PM
I am going to an interview on Tuesday, my TE is coming Monday most likely. 1 for Wal-mart and 1 for Cosco. Hopefully I this advice will help will get me the Cosco job for they pay bank for 18 year olds.

How much TE should I use to help get this job?

Hopefully I can get this job to get a car, PI, and AE. + to help get out of this freaking hosue so I REALLY NEED THIS JOB!! HELP!

proteus
10-21-2001, 05:52 AM
Okay, I\'m new to this whole phero thing, but tried both Yes and PF at work. The results have been very interesting to me. I work in network/intranet administration and so a large part of my job is working with end-users in the office. Anyway, this past week while wearing PF (2 drops) I\'ve had a number of experiences. 1st: gal who works along with me has all of a sudden become very open with me telling me all kinds of stuff, asking what I like to do out of work, asking me if I have a girlfriend, insisting on coming to lunch with me etc. Only thing is I\'m not interested in her as she\'s nice and attractive but not my \" type \". 2nd: My boss, who\'s female has been very friendly, complimenting me effusively, then this is the kicker - on Friday she asks if I will come to her house sometime next week after work to install some software for her, asks if I can take sometime also to teach her how to use one of the applications on a Saturday. 3rd and last: The gal who I\'m really interested in at the office and who I hadn\'t spoken to since this past week, comes by my work area, asks for someone, then comes back immediately and for the first time introduces herself to me, asks stuff about me, keeps coming back all day and for the rest of the week, and is always touching her hair, stroking her shoulder etc and all hot and bothered when in my presence. I may be reading too much into all of this, but this has never happened to me at work before and now all of a sudden all this attention. In fact the gal I work with and the one I\'m interested in were subtly hostile to each other whenever they found me chatting with either of them one of them (the gal I work with) even asking the other one \" Did you want something? \" (as in why are you here???) and the gal I\'m interested in replies \" No, just wanted to check if y\'all wanted anything?\". I figure with all of this stuff going on I\'m not wearing the stuff to work anymore, esp. as I don\'t want to have anything happen with my boss (who is single and VERY attractive), but she is my boss and that is lethal territory. I wore the pheros to see if it would work and didn\'t expect anything like this. So anyhow, would these experiences be classified as \" hits \" or not?

**DONOTDELETE**
10-21-2001, 11:57 AM
Yes this is definetley advanced hit material, for me its about 1000 times worse or better lol images/icons/laugh.gif than that, well 1000 times more people, but you will get that lol. Good luck with the job as well shinten, hey proteous have you tried some of the stronger stuff AE or the edge you hsould get great hits with those or you could try jambats mix. Or mine andro+the edge+alter ego.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-21-2001, 12:28 PM
oh yeah...i\'d consider them hits alright. about ur boss, i feel ya man. it\'s like one of those hollywood devil movies where ur placed in a choice between moral and temptation. on the one hand, u have ur job and ur pay and ur work relationships(or a gf) at stake, on the other hand, u have ur hot sizzling ATTRACTIVE(how do u think she got to where she is..hehe j/k)) boss making what SEEMS like flirtatious moves at u...being extra friendly to u, creating situations where things COULD get hot...talk about a fantasy come true eh. but ur right, that IS lethal territory. cuz after the line is crossed, u might discover that ur attractive boss has a couple of other bfs at ur work...then ur gonna get jealous and then u might find that she has bfs in even higher places...then all hell breaks loose. damned if u do and damned if u don\'t. i can\'t think of a more dangerous environment than to have an attractive boss who takes a liking to u. i wish u all the luck my friend. be strong and whatever u do with her be warned. hehe :-)

in pheromone we trust

Nobody

**DONOTDELETE**
10-21-2001, 08:13 PM
Proteus...

...This is exactly what I\'m looking for! images/icons/smile.gif I want to read about what this stuff is doing to those around you, especially where the boss comes in because there\'s a lot of women in middle management and upper management. I haven\'t re-entered the working world yet but when I do I plan to take the mones with me.

Now what\'s interesting is that you say you used PF. Now that\'s CJ\'s big one. I\'ve yet to test it but some people really like it. I would try it on my interview but I want to use something I\'ve tested. I hope to give it a try soon though.

Good thinking about the boss and all but do you really want to stop using the mones right now? The chick you like is hot on your tail. I\'d move in before I stop using them at work. Get that number or slide her yours. But not both girls just the one you like (for obvious reasons). Good story, and I hope to read more from you and others. Good luck.

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**DONOTDELETE**
10-21-2001, 08:31 PM
Jambat,
I get great reactions from PF in business. I think it helped get me hired as sales manager last week (the writing thang is lagging). We\'ll see next week how my new secretary and sales staff reacts--both male and female.

Now I\'ve want to find something to add to, bolster, the PF. CJ suggested AFA, wasn\'t it? for the \'nol. Gotta try that.

Writer (sales) Guy

CJ01
10-22-2001, 04:32 AM
Writer guy, PF has more -nol than -none (both mens and womens.) AFA has equal amounts of both and it´s pretty concentrated. I´m beginning to regret exchanging my AFA for AE. Really wished I had traded Attraction instead but I thought time-wise it was too late to do so. NOW we all find out that Attraction has a lot less pheros in it than it´s meant to. (The reason I bought it and kept it but I don´t use it coz it smells likeaftershave. images/icons/shocked.gif )

Enough of my troubles, I think PF spiced up with some AFA would work well for you, just make sure not to use too much AFA as it has a lot of -none. Maybe you could try a 90% PF / 10% AFA ratio and see . I still have a small PF/AFA batch mixed up somewhere I stopped using it but I´m gonna mix that with AE and NPA... images/icons/smile.gif

CJ

**DONOTDELETE**
10-22-2001, 12:38 PM
CJ,

I thought the contents of PF were top secret--if it\'s got both -nol and -none, it\'s fine just like it is. Like you, I love the smell, but wish it wouldn\'t fade so quickly.

So how do you know it\'s got -nol?

WG

CJ01
10-22-2001, 02:23 PM
It´s been mentioned a fair bit in the past and plus there is an important thing to remember : -none stinks, -nol does not.

That is why, for instance I can tell that the NPA for women contains a good amount of -none, it really does smell bad!

Funny though that AFA doesn´t smell even though it has a high phero content. Í hope they didn´t get those figures mixed up like the makers of Attraction.

good luck. images/icons/smile.gif
CJ

**DONOTDELETE**
10-22-2001, 04:46 PM
What about androsteninenone refer to my other posts there seems to be other ingredients being neglected that could be discussed and mentioned (possibly the secret the edge ingredients.)

**DONOTDELETE**
10-22-2001, 08:50 PM
Has anyone gotten an extremely negative or positive reaction at work or school?

**DONOTDELETE**
10-23-2001, 10:03 PM
C\'mon! Speak to me! images/icons/laugh.gif

proteus
10-28-2001, 05:33 PM
Hi all,
been unable to post on the board for awhile as I\'ve been stacked up with work and then having a lot of fun playing around with the PF. In answer to your question DonaldDuck, I\'m definitely thinking about getting Jambat\'s mix or something else that is is more potent, the reasons why I\'ll get into shortly. Also wanted to respond to your response Nobody - yeah, as far as my boss goes I\'m doing my best to stay away from her, and trying to find a way to get out of having to go to her place to install the software for her . Good thing is work has been really hectic this week so there has been no way I could go, but she still wants me to go and so I\'m just trying to see her only when I have to and staying off PF :-). Now, as far as this gal I work with, it\'s become a situation where I don\'t think there is a way out as she is hitting on me constantly everyday. Friday she comes to me a little before lunch hour and asks me if we could do lunch together. I say no (don\'t want to allow this to go further), I can\'t etc. She says why not. I can\'t think of anything to say so while I\'m thinking she says she\'ll buy me lunch. I say no way, no lady pays for my lunch and I won\'t accept it. She says I have to, and I say well I\'ll have to pay you back coz I don\'t like the idea. She says you can pay back by taking me dancing!!! Now I dunno what to do with her, coz I don\'t want to go out with her so anyway, I ended up going to lunch with her, she pays and she says remember you have to take me dancing and I say, well we\'ll see if we can do that sometime. So PF definitely seems to hit the spot for her and it seems now it doesn\'t matter if I wear it or not, she is already \" interested \".

As to why I want to try Jambat\'s mix, I feel like I\'m getting decent \" hits \" with PF when gals are able to be around for me for awhile and get a good whiff of the PF, but I\'m not getting any major hits in the sense of DIHL. However, gals are DEFINITELY much more relaxed and open around me and this has been a very noticeable change for me since I tend to look intimidating to women (at least that\'s what they tell me after they get to know - say I look unapproachable, very serious etc.). Anyway, getting back to why I want to try Jambat\'s mix: last night I ODed on PF, went to a bar/club, didn\'t have gals hitting on me or anything like that but did lots of dancing with these two gals who were together, had a good close dance with the one I liked (she was perfection), exchanged numbers etc., but I felt that if I\'d had something stronger I wouldn\'t have had to work as hard (I\'m getting lazy now <g> ). Anyway, once I was dancing away with these two gals, next thing I\'m surrounded by other gals, all trying to get my attention, bartender (a gal) can\'t stop chatting to me and so it was a hell of an evening - never been out and had gals flocking around me, and guys treating me with that kinda respect coz they see me with these women. However, I feel I need more -none as the PF is getting the gals really relaxed and open to me, but I need to get add the -none to really get them going. This gal that I exchanged numbers with, I still had to work her a bit, sweet talk her etc, before I could and so I feel I needed some -none to put some bite to the PF. I\'d try the Edge, but I figure since so many have had super hits with Jambat\'s mix, I\'d rather go for that right away, as time is short and most times you only get one time to meet a gal. I feel if I\'d had something stronger last night, things would have been even better last night. Sorry for the long post y\'all but I\'m having a lot of fun with this stuff and my social life has turned upside down 360 so kinda revelling in it :-).

**DONOTDELETE**
10-28-2001, 08:38 PM
Freeze! (This is where the camera spins around the frame like in the Matrix).

Look at all the stuff that\'s going on. Are you sure you want more stronger stuff?

If you truly want to get in trouble (and I can tell you do) I\'ll tell you what to do....

... don\'t use The Jambat Mix. Use Jambat III. Since PF is working for you so well I wouldn\'t be so quick to dump it. Use 70% PF and 30% NPA. You may want to get some APC for the future but obviously PF is working for you so all you need to turn it up a little. Try the NPA with the PF first. images/icons/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
10-28-2001, 09:07 PM
By the way, in the post above I forgot to ask, what are you going to do about your boss?

**DONOTDELETE**
10-29-2001, 02:25 AM
Now we are getting somewhere with the good stuff ive had for the last year images/icons/laugh.gif

proteus
10-29-2001, 04:26 PM
Thanks for your suggestions Jambat. Okay, I considered trying NPA with PF but read a post (I think by CJ) that PF is to weak to cover the smell of NPA so I\'m worried about trying this combo. Now, you\'re right that I am getting good responses with PF alone, however I want something that will really
\" hit \" the gals when I\'m out on the town if you know what I mean. PF has been working great, but I feel for example that if I\'d had something with a little more \" kick \" in it, I could have gone a lot further that same night with the gal I was close dancing with Saturday if I\'d had something with a little more -none in it. I\'m also considering AFA with PF based on some advise I got from other forum members, but then I\'m thinking why not just try something which has worked for most, namely your Jambat I mix. What I think I\'m going to do is order NPA and APC from Bruce later this week and then use a little of the NPA and combine it with the PF as you suggest. Then I\'ll take the rest and combine it with APC. I\'ll try both combos in similar settings and will let you know what happens (no way I\'ll try either of these at work though as I\'m already getting too much attention!! ). Which gets to your question about my boss - nothing has happened and I just try to see her only when I have to (I\'m staying off the PF also), but she still wants me to do the installation for her/keeps telling other workers what a wonderful job I\'m doing/how nice I am etc. to the point where it\'s embarrassing for me. But I figure as long as I keep my head I can control what happens and so far it\'s working. Anyway, will update if anything else happens and will also let y\'all know what happens after fieldtesting NPA/PF and APC/NPA.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-29-2001, 10:10 PM
By the way, order two bottles of NPA if you\'re going to make both of those mixes because there\'s only 5ml in the bottle. I ordered two and I mixed up 20ml of the mix and also mixed all my PF with the remaining NPA. But see what happens. Jambat #1 is a very good mix so I\'d never say never get it, so see what happens. I\'m incredibly curious about what JB#3 does for you. JB#1 does give me the best hits but the other stuff varies. I\'ll do more JB #3 test too.

Also I haven\'t had any problem with the odor, but I also think CJ has a sensative nose because I don\'t think she likes APC either (I could be wrong so CJ if you\'re out there correct me). But I know she\'s a PF fan and gets hits.
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[ October 29, 2001: Message edited by: jambat ]

CJ01
10-30-2001, 12:26 AM
jambat, I have nothing against APC, I´ve never tried it and the womens smells different than the mens (allegedly).

I do have a sensitive nose but I´m not he only one in the world. So this means, just because YOU (whoever´s using pheros) cannot smell it, it don´t mean other people cannot.

I´ve been meaning to try APC sometime, what´s the mens APC smell like?

CJ

proteus
10-30-2001, 06:09 AM
Hi Jambat,
I\'ll do as you suggest and get two bottles of NPA and one of APC from Bruce and try both Jambat I and Jambat III. I figure I\'ll try Jambat I first at this bar/club I go too every so often, and then Jambat III a week or so later in a similar type setting to see if there are any differences in responses. Thanks for the advise and will post the results after testing each.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-30-2001, 08:30 PM
Proteus...

...I think you\'ll do pretty good.

CJ...

...Men APC smell soapy and almost medicine like but it\'s scent is so clean. When I first smelled it I was like wow. You get addicted to it.

**DONOTDELETE**
10-30-2001, 10:15 PM
And how doesn\'t APC(w) smell?

**DONOTDELETE**
10-31-2001, 09:46 PM
What I meant CJ, was how does APC(w) smell. Sorry.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-01-2001, 08:55 PM
Does anyone get strong \"negative\" reactions at work or school?

rjm
11-07-2001, 02:17 AM
Nope, none yet...

**DONOTDELETE**
11-07-2001, 04:36 AM
Ditto; nothing weird yet. Guess I haven\'t really gone full skunk ... images/icons/tongue.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-07-2001, 09:56 AM
The Men\'s and Women\'s APC scent have a similar scent (to me) except that Men\'s APC has that well known Pheromone smell that some people (like me fr example) find repulsive. The Women\'s APC does not.

Both smell quite strong, but then I\'m not used to wearing strong perfumes myself.

PF men\'s has a very nice scent to it. Too bad it doesn\'t last long. Women\'s PF on the other hand, has a sort of fruity odour that makes me nauseous after smelling it for a while.

That said, I think PF on a man smells sexy....

~JacQueLine~ images/icons/crazy.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-07-2001, 09:34 PM
You\'re pushing that AE hard aren\'t you? images/icons/smile.gif Actually I\'m even consider testing AE .So is it better than PF?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-07-2001, 11:49 PM
Hey everyone sounds as if the jambat mixes are coming along, has anyone considered putting on as a seperate application Alter ego into that one, and now that the kits are in what about playing around with them as well. Addign rone into your mixes it boosts according to some studies the effects of other pheros by 17%.

oscar
11-08-2001, 12:08 AM
jambat,

Just guessing, since PF offers no hard numbers, that AE is twice, if not three times as strong as PF, based ALMOST entirely on experience, but somewhat on price.

If good data were available on PF, I imagine it would rank near PPA in potency.

Just an opinion, but that\'s the best I can offer until Kiotech coughs up some numbers. images/icons/wink.gif

Oscar images/icons/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-08-2001, 04:08 AM
Just the fact im getting strong results from it, strange aint it i used to go on and on about attraction and andro 4.2 and 8.4 but this alter ego even blew me away and then the edge added with andro its good stuff.

Even SPMO seems to be good as a \'lure\' so to speak to get em in as far as having a nice smell to it.

Just me playing around, hey if AE/NPA works better for more people why not push it and if the kits work out well why not.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-08-2001, 01:26 PM
How does AE do in the work place?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-08-2001, 03:39 PM
I would describe APC as really soapy for the first 20 minutes, after that time it gets real subtle and smells okay. I’ve asked a few women on their opinion and they tell me it doesn’t smell all the great. Sorry guys, I had great results with the stuff but I stopped wearing it all together. I still use my Sandalwood Edge in the hair and it works wonders on its own.

I said this before and I’ll say it again, the best advice I can give is to start working out. When your begin to get in shape your body sends out different signals, in the animal world the females seek out the healthiest males. As much as we’d like to convince ourselves, we’re not all that far away from regular animals--watch a nature show and ya’ might learn something.

Here’s something I’ve discovered, put on some Mones right before your working out. I’ve noticed that I’m more motivated, I can go longer and harder every time I take a deep whiff, it’s a strange burst of energy that you really have to try for yourself. Because of this I’m working out more often, I feel better about myself and as an added bonus it gives the ladies something to drool about.

Good luck,
Dylan

Whitehall
11-08-2001, 04:32 PM
While Dylan is correct that working out offers great improvements in attractiveness, I can think of some things that are even more effective in making a guy more attractive, at least to certain women:

1) get your MD and license to practice medicine
2) be a first round draft pick
3) go platinum with your new record
4) win the Congressional Medal of Honor
5) make the NY Times Bestsellers List with a book of romantic poetry

The thing all these have in common is that they represent real accomplishments that deserve reward from society. The message is that hard work and risk-taking is rewarded (sometimes).

I\'ve often marveled at how much women control the direction of society and our species, all by virtue of whom they chose to spread their legs for.

When women suddenly decided that long hair on men was cool and sexy, guess what we guys did, as fast as we could? When they decided that money was the ticket, guess who started putting in 60 hour work weeks? Now, when they\'ve decided that 6 packs get their panties wet, guess who\'s sweating in the gym (including yours truly!)

**DONOTDELETE**
11-09-2001, 04:51 AM
Whitehall, the candidness of your post is too fucking funny. Not that what you speak of is a laughing matter, just the way it\'s delivered. And, also because of how I\'ve tried to be a chameleon, too.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-09-2001, 08:44 AM
I was going to say that too techno! Yeah, I was cracking up while reading whitehall\'s post, then suddenly i realized that it\'s nothing to laugh about but the way it was delivered at first, i thought it was a big joke! especially the \"be a first round draft pick\" images/icons/laugh.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-09-2001, 12:36 PM
Oh hell that means now that they theyve decided a guy with way higher than normal pheromone levels is what they want, what everyone will start using pheros and my advantage will be gone damn.

Well i could be a writer or earn lots of money or run away and join the foreign legion or climb a mountain or workout or be a wait for it ....CLOWN back to AE it works great in the workplace. But i would say other products have different effects.

oscar
11-09-2001, 02:06 PM
Whitehall,

Great post! True, funny and sad all at once.
Reminded me of a line from Tom Robbin\'s novel \"Even Cowgirls Get the Blues\". In describing the way a woman cajoled to get her way, it read something like, \'....a few deft turns of the vaginal wrench and,........Voila!!\' images/icons/laugh.gif

Oscar images/icons/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-12-2001, 07:51 PM
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rjm
11-13-2001, 02:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jambat:
... don\'t use The Jambat Mix. Use Jambat III. Since PF is working for you so well I wouldn\'t be so quick to dump it. Use 70% PF and 30% NPA. You may want to get some APC for the future but obviously PF is working for you so all you need to turn it up a little. Try the NPA with the PF first. images/icons/wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dudes -- ARE YOU NUTS? Look, considering he\'s getting just about taken home by just what he\'s doing, doing a mix like that is gonna get him locked in the building over the weekend with these women! Oh wait -- that would be a good thing, wouldn\'t it? Never mind... images/icons/blush.gif

But just for the hell of it, CAN YOU GET ME A JOB THERE?!?!?! PLEASE?!?!?!

rjm
11-13-2001, 03:37 AM
I just read through Whitehall\'s post... Hmmm, looks like I\'m screwed, or not, as the case may be...

Be that as it may, I ain\'t bustin\' my hump to be something I\'m not. I use the pheros to bring the better side of people to me, and I\'m rarely wrong on my first impressions. What I\'m taking forever to get to is this: It seems to me that everyone\'s being exactly the desperate fools they say they don\'t want to be. If you want your hair long, wear it long; if you want to work out 27 hrs/day, do so. If you like your old pickup truck, keep it.

Some of you are my elders; some my juniors, and we all have different lives, but I\'d be willing to bet that anyone who\'s ACTED a certain way to get &gt;&gt;and keep&lt;&lt; a female has wound up extremely unhappy. Are you really willing to blow $2K /per year on a whole new wardrobe, and $40K for a new car?

Just thinking back over the last year, I\'ve gone out with a few girls. You know what? I wore clothes that were no less than three years old, and it did not matter at all. We still had a good time, though we also realized that our backgrounds and lifestyles were far too different to seriously consider making a go at it.

There\'s only so much that the eye-candy attractiveness can do, before you say, \"Kiss my ever-lovin\' arse, whench!\"

I have no expectations of meeting Pamela Anderson Lee/ Anderson/ Lee. I\'ve left behind those who I *THOUGHT* were worth my time, but were only interested in money, weed, a ride, a psychiatrist, or whatever else they could weasle out of me.

I\'m still looking, but I\'m not settling.

Now, how much influence do the women-folk exert again? images/icons/cool.gif (The sad thing is, that I\'d rather be at work than with some of those exes!)

The choice is not entirely theirs; you can\'t be FORCED into a relationship. If you hold to your standards, you will find someone worthy.

Hmmm... That wasn\'t too short to get my point across, was it? images/icons/blush.gif

Later!

Whitehall
11-13-2001, 10:58 AM
Some wise words from Thomas Jefferson, one of our early presidents,

\"In matters of fashion, bend with the wind. In matters of principle, stand like a rock.\"

or words to that effect. Randy\'s point about being yourself is well-taken.

What I\'ve found in my long and complicated dealings with women, is that what the good ones most respect and are most in seach of, is manly leadership. Like the woman in the Jimmy Buffett song, most are \"looking for a man of strong mind.\" One should ideally know oneself, have that elusive quality of \"character,\" and the courage of one\'s own beliefs. Having plans for your life is very impressive to most women.

They will test you so never be afraid to piss a woman off if what she wants is wrong for you, for her, or for the world.

Yet, if your choice of a woman thinks that your hair would look nice a bit longer or that you should wear more green, I say make \'em happy if they show their appreciation in bed.

I\'ve said this before, that overall, women chose men. They do have power and we should respect it. Ultimately, preparing the next generation is a partnership of the sexes. Like most partnerships, it\'s some give and some take.

[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: Whitehall ]

**DONOTDELETE**
11-13-2001, 08:45 PM
True that.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-14-2001, 11:54 PM
Hey whats happening with all my posts where are they going who is responsible for this at least 10 are gone who is responsible he he he.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-15-2001, 10:11 PM
What\'s gone?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-19-2001, 10:36 PM
Anymore work experiences, especially with the new kits? I\'m very interested in what\'s going on with these do it yourself kits.

**DONOTDELETE**
11-20-2001, 08:17 PM
C\'mon, no one\'s wearing this stuff to work? (Where else would you wear it? images/icons/wink.gif ) And what about school?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-20-2001, 08:38 PM
Ok, Ok!!

Tomorrow I\'ll finally try it at work. images/icons/crazy.gif

Mindful of other posts up here, I\'ve put off doing it until now as \'one doesn\'t usually p*ss in your pool\', putting it gross-ly.

Sure, wear it to someone else\'s work to get a hit, or as DD does to give aroma to your aura during presentations or interviews. But, workplace is a weird place.

But I\'ll stop rationalising out of it, and try it out on the 90 or so women here. (Lots of meetings coming up tomorrow).

Happy? images/icons/tongue.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-21-2001, 03:38 PM
OK.

Here we go. Been here an hour and a half so far, and six women who NEVER speak to me unless it\'s for business have come up to talk for a \'catch-up\' chat (two have used that line). Two definite DIHL/DIOS/SM looks - almost glazed eyes, just wide-eyed staring from two of the sales reps in the cafeteria, to the point where I was embarassed and had to leave. Two lingering touches from women who NEVER touch me, both maternal women though. Two overly helpful secretrary women - we also have male secretaries here - when usually they ignore me.

It\'s only Morning Tea/Coffee Break time, but I\'ve had to shut my office door, as two of the above have dropped in already for no apparent reason: \"I\'ve forgotten what I was going to ask you, now. So ... how are you?\"!

I\'ll let you know as the day goes on. Have to work now, got reports and another meeting at noon. images/icons/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-21-2001, 06:30 PM
Wow!

Meeting was weird, all the women near me were squirrelly and giggly - most unusual for my work.

Lunchtime, two co-workers walked straight up for a chat while I was making a cuppa - never happens! After lunch, secretary for co-manager was showing a friend from IT some photos - just passing and invited to join in, listening to me and chatting about cameras. Just have to lock myself in my room, dammit, if I\'m gonna get some work done now.

Door is locked! images/icons/shocked.gif

Paul canada
11-21-2001, 07:24 PM
I have been useing pheromones at two job interviews this week.

Used PI(W),AE, TE.

Both interviews were about 2 hours in length and to be honest the interviewers asked me a couple of questions and then just sat back and had a gerneral chat about everything and nothing.

Didn\'t see DIHL but both of them did not stop talking so I guess I can count that as a hit (if I get a job then I will consider this a major hit)

Anyway round two of the intervies start Friday so I will wear the same combo again.

Paul

**DONOTDELETE**
11-21-2001, 09:20 PM
YES!!!! Mycroft! Kicking butt in the work place. What exactly were you using? It sounds like JB #1 results am I correct or was this from the mixing kit?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-21-2001, 09:37 PM
No further activity as I have been almost glued to my chair after lunch to try and get some actual work done! images/icons/frown.gif

Although, two other women were in the library-cubicle before with me just then with no obvious effects. But, I\'m sweating heaps, \'cos my Director sent an email a coupla hours ago telling me to move my butt on two projects, like NOW!, and skip the other meeting. (She\'s immune as she is SUPPOSED to be on Long-Service Leave for 8 weeks; unless someone here is talking to her ... hmmm ... nah, probably just checking up on whether I\'m slacking ... ) images/icons/crazy.gif

Anyway, you can\'t send \'mones through cyberspace, mores the pity, so maybe the \'scent of fear\' is having an effect, or else I\'m just not moving around out of my office. Maybe, I\'ve shifted back to work focus too.
images/icons/crazy.gif

Still, this morning was very interesting. images/icons/smile.gif

Oh ... and it\'s Xcite! wipes, \'cos I like the smell myself. images/icons/cool.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2001, 05:59 PM
Mycroft, what were you wearing?

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2001, 06:56 PM
It was Xcite! wipes; did that not come up at the end of the reply?

I\'m not sure what is in them, but in another thread with Wilde-man, I sort of described them as being minty/musky/mossy in smell with an initial citrusy top note which went fairly quickly on me. I know that George Dodd has written that there may be between 20 - 40 ingredients in them - have to take his word for that.

I locked the door for hours so I could catch up on work - dammit - was here to 9:30 pm to catch up because I was \"fishing\" all morning.

Not today though, Josephine! Not putting them on again until next week, so I can clear my desk of today\'s reports. Everyone is back to their \'pass-on-by\' self. Though, post-script is that last night my wife was VERY attentive again. I was SOOO tired though; I fell asleep almost immediately (Hence, the dammit!! images/icons/frown.gif )

Incidentally, I usually tell her that the \'smell\' is from the \'fabric freshener\' on my coat! (It is not \"that smell\" from the ephedrine I took when I had a cold, but similar - sort-of; slightly different effect too ...)

Hmmm ... might play around with them again on the weekend, now that I\'ve tried it out with lots of work-people ... gotta go to the department stores in the local shopping centre for more cologne samples anyway.

Gonna get paid a bonus this year, so I\'ll be diversifying my pheromone experience shortly, which will no doubt please Bruce and the \'South Park\' gang.

Ho humm, back to work ... images/icons/tongue.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2001, 08:51 PM
An Xcite wipe!?! You\'re kidding? Wow! This is the 1st time I\'ve heard of anyone getting hits like that from an XCW! I guess I didn\'t catch your response about what it was the first time.

Well those were cool hits. I\'m suprised your wife was even affected. (If you don\'t pop up too often we\'ll know why). images/icons/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2001, 08:56 PM
An Xcite wipe!?! You\'re kidding? Wow! This is the 1st time I\'ve heard of anyone getting hits like that from an XCW! I guess I didn\'t catch your response about what it was the first time.

Well those were cool hits. I\'m suprised your wife was even affected. (If you don\'t pop up too often we\'ll know why). images/icons/smile.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-22-2001, 10:37 PM
Ta, mate!

Curious that XCW have not come up before. When I ordered them, I really hadn\'t done much reading here and was mainly going on past academic knowledge of pheromones and olfaction, so my earlier posts were heavy on research focus.

My previous experience was with Realm for Men was back in 1995 (?) when it first came out. Didn\'t seem to work, but maybe it did and I didn\'t know what to look for (DIHL/DIOS/SM looks, hair twirling, etc). Plus at the time, I smoked Bali/Indonesian \'clove\' cigarettes pretty heavily for about a year - never really smoked before that and hardly a gasper since then. Maybe that stuffed it up. I stopped the cigs because my supervisor - a psychiatrist - said that she thought smoking was a sign of sadness! (Incidentally, she took the Realm for Women and reckoned it worked for her, though she was pretty knock-out anyway, and, NO we didn\'t!! images/icons/wink.gif )

Also, I had talked to Winnifred Cutler and Norma McCoy (see their 1997 paper on 10-X and men) in Scotland at IASR, and afterwards as well - so I knew their work backwards - they were doing all the stats when I first met them. Also, have two friends who are experts on the olfactory cortex and we argue all the time about the existence of the VNO, and about the putative mechanism of pheromones.

Hadn\'t really had the cash on hand to play in the pheromone pool since then, didn\'t trust the other dodgy sites with my cash, and only found Love-scent recently. Glad I did, but! images/icons/laugh.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-25-2001, 12:49 AM
Wow, I want to hear more about about how the mones effect things around you. You seem to know how to work the mones. images/icons/smile.gif