View Full Version : What are the best online/paperback resources for in-depth pheromone info?
handtohandking
06-30-2004, 08:24 PM
I have been searching the web for some advanced data on pheromones, but
I haven't been able to find much other than news articles and FAQ's on online stores. Are there any sites online
which go into pheromones in great detail and/or what books do you recommend? I am lookin on Amazon for some books, I
see these and I'm wondering if they are any good:
Pheromones : Understanding the Mystery of Sexual
Attraction
by
William Regelson (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Regelson%2C%20William/002-2126352
-1885607)
Love Scents: How Your Natural Pheromones Influence Your
Relationships, Your Moods, and Who You Love
by
Michelle Kodis (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Kodis%2C%20Michelle/002-2126352-1
885607),
David T. Moran (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Moran%2C%20David%20T./002-2126352
-1885607),
Deborah Houy (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Houy%2C%20Deborah/002-2126352-188
5607)
The Scent of Eros: Mysteries of Odor in Human Sexuality
by
James V. Kohl (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Kohl%2C%20James%20V./002-2126352-
1885607),
Robert T. Francoeur (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Francoeur%2C%20Robert%20T./002-21
26352-1885607)
jvkohl
06-30-2004, 10:10 PM
Kodis plagarized "The Scent of
Eros." Her book is primarily advertising for Realm products. Regelson gave up his attempt to publish until John
Morganthaller came on as editor (but you can see by reading the book that Morganthaller actually became a
co-author--unless Regelson had a mouse in his pocket while completing the writing). Professional/academic reviews of
"The Scent of Eros" say it all--and links to several different reviews can be found at
einstein
06-30-2004, 11:08 PM
I like Scent of Eros. It gets
pretty technical, often reads like a scholarly journal. I didn't understand all of it, but I like the depth. Took
over a week to get through it.
Love scents is for laypeople. More like laywomen. Doesn't go into the science
behind things. It talks about phermones affecting your "sixth sense" as intuituin, but does not explain the science
behind it. There is a chapter on pheromone colognes, but it was written in 98 and doesn't discuss the products
used by forum members. I read it in two evenings. And like jkohl says, Kodis has nothing but praise for Realm and
Erox studies. David Berliner even wrote the foreward.
Regelson I've never heard of.
If you want detail and
science, I would recommend Scent of Eros. I'm sure jkohl seconds my recommendation, but he's a little biased ;)
Mtnjim
07-01-2004, 11:20 AM
I would say "The Scent of Eros:
Mysteries of Odor in Human Sexuality". That way, if you have any questions, you can ask the author right here on our
little own forum. :thumbsup:
handtohandking
07-01-2004, 04:03 PM
Seems like the
consensus goes with "Scent of Eros"...
I had actually heard of the book before I even found love-scent.com, and
when I came here I found out it was a popular pheromone product as well. Seems like a worthy purchase...
a.k.a.
07-01-2004, 04:27 PM
This is not a book on pheromones,
but David Abrams “The Spell of the Sensuous” has taught me more about being successful with pheromones than any
scientific work.
It’s written by a slight-of-hand magician that lived among so-called primitive peoples in
various parts of the world and made friends with the local shamen. He came up with the notion that what westerners
call native “magic” is all about having a more intensely sensual relationship to you environment.
He writes a
lot about how important smell is among people living in a more direct relationship with nature and concludes that
this function has grown predominately unconscious among “civilized” people.
After reading this book (several
times over), I’ve learned to use pheromones as a sort of magical anointment for summoning natural forces to create
an aura about myself and shape people’s consciousness.
I know it sounds off the wall. But if any of what I
said sounds the least bit interesting I highly recommend this
book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679776397/qid=1088724386/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-3707
720-6457660?v=glance&s=books
handtohandking
07-01-2004, 04:37 PM
This is not
a book on pheromones, but David Abrams “The Spell of the Sensuous” has taught me more about being successful with
pheromones than any scientific work.
It’s written by a slight-of-hand magician that lived among so-called
primitive peoples in various parts of the world and made friends with the local shamen. He came up with the notion
that what westerners call native “magic” is all about having a more intensely sensual relationship to you
environment.
He writes a lot about how important smell is among people living in a more direct relationship
with nature and concludes that this function has grown predominately unconscious among “civilized” people.
After reading this book (several times over), I’ve learned to use pheromones as a sort of magical anointment for
summoning natural forces to create an aura about myself and shape people’s consciousness.
I know it sounds off
the wall. But if any of what I said sounds the least bit interesting I highly recommend this book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679776397/qid=1088724386/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-37
07720-6457660?v=glance&s=books (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679776397/qid=1088724386/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-3707720-645766
0?v=glance&s=books)
Sounds very interesting...
I've always been highly into
mankind's role in nature and the universe in general, always looking at things with a bigger perspective, which has
helped me understand life, people, and society in many ways...however, it has also simultaneously detached me from
"everyday life". What I mean by that is that I see things in a very scientific and analytical way, and it's like
everything has some sort of in-depth explanation, and I notice myself concerned more with the science behind it than
the experience itself. This explains my newfound fascination with pheromones, and many things I have noticed about
myself and others in the past seems to make a bit more sense...HOWEVER, I do see myself also getting too technical
sometimes and putting too much emphasis on the -mones themselves and don't put as much effort and importance into
the other traits of attraction/socialization...
a.k.a.
07-01-2004, 05:04 PM
I've always
been highly into mankind's role in nature
The way I see it, we’ve been “hard-wired” to mate
long before modern languages and the seduction techniques associated with speech came to be. Most of the seduction
techniques you see on the internet focus on the conscious mind and use spoken language. Pheromones cut right through
all that and work with the basic signifiers that the human body “understands” irregardless of whatever internal
dialogue is going on in your head. To get the most use out of these "signifiers" you have to develop an intuitive
sense — or rather develop a sort of sensual awareness — of how they are picked up and trnaslated by the people
around you.
If that makes any sense at all.
handtohandking
07-01-2004, 05:24 PM
The way I
see it, we’ve been “hard-wired” to mate long before modern languages and the seduction techniques associated with
speech came to be. Most of the seduction techniques you see on the internet focus on the conscious mind and use
spoken language. Pheromones cut right through all that and work with the basic signifiers that the human body
“understands” irregardless of whatever internal dialogue is going on in your head. To get the most use out of these
"signifiers" you have to develop an intuitive sense — or rather develop a sort of sensual awareness — of how they
are picked up and trnaslated by the people around you.
If that makes any sense at all.
I understand.
I've always tried to understand things from as primal a perspective as possible. I sometimes consciously or
subconsciously do things just using tone of my voice, choice/delivery of words, the look on my face, body language,
and other indirect ways to get my point across. Around me, I always try to bring out each person's "role", if you
know what I mean. In essence, everybody is supposed to play a role around you, but sometimes it seems blurred or
ambiguous because of "civilization", Not to sound controversial or anything, but when I want to, I can make both
males and female submissive to me...at work I can, in a blink of an eye, have everyone playing their part like
they're supposed to. I have the ability to have women cook for me and get me things and basically "offer"
themselves to me. I can make girls jealous and lustful, have friends/acquaintances always wanting to do something
with me, coerce customers/clients/businesspeople, have people offer up their deepest secrets to me, etc.
Basically the deeper you get into understanding yourself, people, society, nature, and the universe, you will
understand why certain things work and happen the way they do.
This post probably sounded a little nutty, but
charm + pheromones + intelligence = THE WORLD IN YOUR HANDS...
...however, if you're more worried about getting
a date and paying your rent, it's not as easy as it sounds...
:blink:
a.k.a.
07-01-2004, 10:05 PM
...however, if
you're more worried about getting a date and paying your rent, it's not as easy as it sounds...
Being totally present in every moment is the hardest thing there is (at least for us civilized folks).
I’ve
tried, many times, to take up zen meditation, but I’ve always given up. I do yoga, so crossing my legs and sitting
up straight is no problem. But JUST SITTING there without losing myself in thoughts about what I’m going to do
next seems impossible.
With pheromones, I’m lucky because I enjoy JUST FLIRTING. Even when I didn’t use
pheromones and never got dates, I got a big kick out of it. Sort of like I’m just exercising my male rights. (Sounds
sexist, I guess. But women have these rights too. We’re all sexual beings.)
On the other hand, I don’t enjoy
kissing up to power, massaging people’s egos, constantly encouraging people to do their best, putting on a show that
everything's just great and all the other business skills I have to put into practice every working day. But it’s
still possible, if I just keep reminding myself that this is my life at the moment so I might as well live it for
all it’s worth.
Speaking of Zen. The REAL world IS in our hands. It’s just that we keep desiring some
fantasy world that doesn’t exist. And we’re always “the boss”. It’s just that the responsibility can be
overwhelming. (At least for me. It sounds like you can get into it.)
Watcher
07-03-2004, 02:23 AM
Scent of Eros is the big book to
seriously look at it and break away from this realm "stuff" that reguritates and uses dodgy data and ideas to
promote their products - love-scent forums have nailed down what cutler and co cant and that is to move into serious
science instead of this dodgy half baked commericalisation - JKohl has done a much better job with pheromone
education and it is great to have him and his product involved with love-scent which is really the main port and
call for this product type.
There have been great advances made here by all involved over the last 6 years or
so and i intend to keep buying and contributing my knowledge built up from a similar period of usage and involvement
in LS since even the old old old forum type which really wasnt a forum but a bullentin board type set up.
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