View Full Version : Best product for shy and passive male type?
Stressed
06-30-2004, 07:56 PM
I'm looking for the product that would create a social/sexual attraction to a fairly quiet, passive
and shy guy. I'm 28 and I'm not ultra-aggressive and jumping to any opportunity. I much more on the "he's cute"
rather than "he's hot" side. Maybe it's not very masculine of me, but that's who I am. I'm enjoying myself with
aggressive women, but overall Californians are very repressed and timid, and timid vs timid doesn't seem to connect
very well.
I tried the PI a while ago, and while I definitely saw reaction, it built expectations of a totally
dominant male. So it becomes a dramatic job as a result, rather than a lot of fun.
WAGG didn't do anything for
me - probably my behaviour doesn't flow well with this product. So what are other options that could work for a guy
like myself?
(wanted to disclaim that I definitely do not fall into the 'nice guy' category) - my problem is
that I'm simply not good in attack and conquer, and women are often very quiet in a company of a reserved guy.
Friendly1
06-30-2004, 09:08 PM
Try an Androstenone OD and see
if that makes you a little more aggressive.
Bruce
06-30-2004, 09:27 PM
Friendly,
He says he has Primal.
That is enough to do as much aNONE as he wants. I'll say NPA or Edge. I'm a big fan of the Edge Essential Heat,
but if you have your own favorite colonges already, NPA would be better. Something from the Edge/NPA lineup. That
should be an improvement over Primal.
B
TRock
06-30-2004, 09:39 PM
(wanted to
disclaim that I definitely do not fall into the 'nice guy' category) - my problem is that I'm simply not good in
attack and conquer, and women are often very quiet in a company of a reserved guy.
same here. my game is
weak. i have a friend who has the ross jeffries stuff. i'm gonna borrow that stuff from him.
www.fastseduction.com (http://www.fastseduction.com) is good too i heard. i really haven't looked at the
site indepth yet but eventually i'll get off my ass and look at it. plus you're prob scared of rejection too, i
know i am even though it supposed to happen to everybody.
SwingerMD
06-30-2004, 11:40 PM
Stressed,
The -none
products will give you that sexual vibe, but it will also accentuate the "lone wolf" qualities of your personality.
A -nol product like SOE will loosen you and those around you up. A lot of people say that it does not get you
sexual hits, but I've found that it does up people to flirting and if you are skillfull enough socially to steer
the conversation down a sexual path, . . . look out! ;)
There have been some discussions in the past how -nol
slowly converts (small amounts) to -none via bacteria on the skin. Chikara and AE might be other phero products
that you may want to look into. Chikara has the widest variety of pheros of all the products here, and for me it
brings out a wide variety of favorable rxns.
____________
-SwingerMD
hotrocks5
07-01-2004, 01:11 AM
AE is a good product to start
out with, since it has a well-balanced combination of mones. Or, since you already have PI, you could also try
mixing with SOE.
Holmes
07-01-2004, 06:30 AM
same here. my game is
weak. i have a friend who has the ross jeffries stuff. i'm gonna borrow that stuff from him.
www.fastseduction.com (http://www.fastseduction.com) is good too i heard. i really haven't looked at the
site indepth yet but eventually i'll get off my ass and look at it. plus you're prob scared of rejection too, i
know i am even though it supposed to happen to everybody.
Ross Jeffries' best stuff involves magick,
whether he admits it or not.
Archer Sloan's material is superior.
InternationalPlayboy
07-01-2004, 08:34 AM
I'm
looking for the product that would create a social/sexual attraction to a fairly quiet, passive and shy guy. I'm 28
and I'm not ultra-aggressive and jumping to any opportunity. I much more on the "he's cute" rather than "he's
hot" side. Maybe it's not very masculine of me, but that's who I am. I'm enjoying myself with aggressive women,
but overall Californians are very repressed and timid, and timid vs timid doesn't seem to connect very
well.
I'm the same type of personality. I do best with aggressive women, they bring me out of my
shell. In addition to experimenting with pheromones, I suggest some type of behavorial modification course, such as
a self-hypnosis program, to work on assertiveness and confidence. I first started making positive changes in those
categories by using Marshal Sylver's hypnosis series, Passion, Profit, and Power.
I looked into Ross
Jeffries techniques several years ago and he just seemed kind of creepy to me. I think working on yourself to
improve internally is better than learning some system of subconsciously manipulating others. (Though I guess
that's what pheromones do.)
Right now, I'm going more for the social hits than the sexual ones and have
been wearing mones to help my attitude about work and my interactions with others there.
WAGG
didn't do anything for me - probably my behaviour doesn't flow well with this product. So what are other options
that could work for a guy like myself?
It's too bad WAGG didn't work for you. I found that it not
only positively affects the people around me, but I get a lift from it too. I'm far from an alpha person, but I
think, since I still keep to myself alot, I do often come accross with an unfriendly, "Clint Eastwood" aura. I had
noticable results with WAGG right away, people didn't seem to want to end their conversations with me and my boss
took me to lunch one day to reward me for something I did that I thought should have just been part of my
job.
My number one mone right now is Chikara. I think that brings out the social hits and I keep getting
these sly, knowing looks from women. It's hard to describe, but there is a gleam in their eyes when I wear Chikara
that I haven't noticed when not wearing it.
Pheros is just about even with Chikara on my scale of favorites
right now. But there are minimal Love Scent type of pheromones in that product, so you might want to fortify that
with some NPA. I think It's a great scent though, which is enhanced with the addition of a little NPA.
I
haven't worked enough with SOE as I got Chikara and Pheros so closely afterwards and have been focusing mainly on
Chikara. But from what I've read, that may give you the social hits with a little sexual edge to them better than
WAGG. I remember reading that some guys claimed that they gave off a "gay" aura when they used WAGG.
I did
have a good reaction one day with three dabs of TE, a bit of SOE, two dabs of WAGG and five or six dabs of Pheros,
but haven't been able to repeat the results, so it may have been a fluke.
So in conclusion, I would suggest
first Chikara, then SOE, maybe some npa/TE for sexual hits, and for a great scent to mix with, Pheros, when the next
batch comes out.
Stressed
07-01-2004, 11:50 AM
I'm not looking to become more
aggressive - I'm originally from Northern Europe, so it's in my bones that aggressiveness towards other people is
inproper. In fact I'm pretty comfortable being reserved and relaxed at all times, and I don't believe that we
should compete with each other like deers in heat.
However, despite an impression one can derive from american
movies (black leather-clad women knocking down men twice their size with a single blow of a tiny little fist), women
in this country are way more submissive than anyone could think.
Basically, the aggressive male is an expected
modus operandi in clubs, bars and social situations.
I was looking for something that could lift the
intimidating 'lone wolf' image, as you call it here. I mean intimidating for poor scared girls in this country.
I
believe in many parts of the US, 'quiet' translates to 'weird'. Like: "see this guy with a glass of red, alone
at the table? He's eating chalk in the classroom when everyone's gone."
belgareth
07-01-2004, 12:01 PM
Probably the best products for
you are SoE, WAGG or Chikara.
There's a difference between being friendly and being agressive. Try being more
cheerful, open and outgoing. You don't have to be aggressive to accomplish that.
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