View Full Version : WOOHOO! I just got my FIRST order of pheros in the mail...NOW WHAT?!?! AHHHH!
handtohandking
06-23-2004, 05:55 PM
I ordered on Sunday, it was shipped Monday, and it arrived today (my
day off from work). How convenient, thanks...(and it will encourage me to do business with this site in the future)
:thumbsup:
Now that I have this big friendly chapstick called "SOE Musk Scented" and this lust-in-a-spraybottle
called "Edge Essentials: Heat", HOW THE HELL DO I USE THEM THE MOST EFFECTIVELY?!
I've told you guys my stats
about 1,000,000 times already (the big young aggressive Asian guy), but I want to tell you my situation at work
(where I want to utilize the pheros the most) so you can understand my plight. I think I already give off a good
amount of -none, and considering that I'm also in a higher level position at my job than my other co-workers around
my age and older, the effect is probably amplified. And in the Edge bottle I got, I sniffed it and it smelled really
strong, so I'm guessing I can detect -none with my nose, no? :confused:
And sometimes I feel I come off as a
little too aggressive, especially lately, so how can I best utilize the pheromone products I now own? I know, of
course, to lighten up and be more friendly when I can, (I KNOW I CAN; my original reputation at the workplace was
the "big friendly lovable guy") but what can I do with the products to enhance my aura?
I want to go LIGHT as
first, maybe I'll always have to go light, as I think I give off strong phero signatures already. Plus, I sweat a
lot, ESPECIALLY at work where I do mostly physical labor. Will excessive sweating intensify the -mone smell, maybe
even cause me to OD? Or will it eventually just wash/dilute all the -mones away? Insight would be greatly
appreciated...
The SOE Scented seems like a safe product, but I'm a little worried how I use the EE Heat. I've
heard of ways to use regular TE, but would Heat be any different? I actually don't know too much about this
particular product other than it's TE with a fragrant oil blend, no? So would applying a particular cologne, say,
Giorgio Armani's Acqua Di Gio, as a cover scent be too much? How can I utilize Heat best with my situation, and how
can I use SOE best? Separate or mixed? What amounts and where should I put them? :think:
My target audience
will be 16-19 year old females, ranging from white to hispanic to black. Also, I wanted to add some sidenotes as to
my work uniform: 1) I wear a hat on the job, so...should I put pheros in my hat or in my hair (which is very very
short)? I adjust my hat frequently, and already put a little bit of cologne in there, and I think it works well, so
should I do it? 2) I CANNOT put anything on my hands/forearms as my work will constantly rub against them plus I
wash my hands very frequently.
I want to use this stuff TOMORROW on the job, so it would be GREAT if I can get
some advice from the good people on this site! THANK YOU...
:box:
metroman
06-23-2004, 06:15 PM
H to H going light at first
would be the thing to do...were all excited when we first get these mone products so its a real let down if our
first experience is to OD. Considering your age, body type & personality it sounds like your creating plenty of
your own none...I'd say definetely emphasize the SOE for the nol & rone in your applications...maybe 3 parts SOE &
1 part TE...For work I'd try 1 dab, not spray, of the EE Heat & 2 inches of the SOE. Not sure if you smell the
added scent in EE Heat or the actual none...but whether or not you can, keep in mind a lot of people can pickup the
scent up easy, especially women who usually have a better sense of smell than men. Good luck on your new adventures
with mones. Give us an update on how it works out for you.
handtohandking
06-23-2004, 06:28 PM
H to H
going light at first would be the thing to do...were all excited when we first get these mone products so its a real
let down if our first experience is to OD. Considering your age, body type & personality it sounds like your
creating plenty of your own none...I'd say definetely emphasize the SOE for the nol & rone in your
applications...maybe 3 parts SOE & 1 part TE...For work I'd try 1 dab, not spray, of the EE Heat & 2 inches of the
SOE. Not sure if you smell the added scent in EE Heat or the actual none...but whether or not you can, keep in mind
a lot of people can pickup the scent up easy, especially women who usually have a better sense of smell than men.
Good luck on your new adventures with mones. Give us an update on how it works out for you.
Hey metro
thanks for the reply...
LOL I never even really thought about dabbing the EE cuz it was in a spraybottle. I was
thinking about a way to put a small amount on me without spraying, and a dab (to the chest?) would be good. I'm
guessing I shouldn't dab it on my hand, or is that fine? How much should I spread that dab over the area I put it
on?
I always found the "inches" thing with SOE a bit interesting. I've heard people talking about applying it
to their wrists, but I cannot due to my situation, so where would be a good spot?
And should I add a cover scent
for one or both? I already use good cologne on the regular, and if I do cover the EE and/or SOE with it, should I
use less cologne than usual? I'm thinking the overall scent might be a little overpowering...
metroman
06-23-2004, 06:38 PM
I'd say apply it to your chest
in a 2 or 3 inch radius circle...dont worry they'll go right through your shirt, for the SOE you could apply it to
your neck maybe an inch to each side. As far as adding your own cologne cover scent on top of the the EE Heat &
scented SOE you might be risking too much of a good thing...however it might produce a nice scent...I guess thats
something you'd have to experiment around with yourself...
handtohandking
06-23-2004, 06:58 PM
I'd say
apply it to your chest in a 2 or 3 inch radius circle...dont worry they'll go right through your shirt, for the SOE
you could apply it to your neck maybe an inch to each side. As far as adding your own cologne cover scent on top of
the the EE Heat & scented SOE you might be risking too much of a good thing...however it might produce a nice
scent...I guess thats something you'd have to experiment around with yourself...
Thanks man...
Haha
I'll probably apply them in that exact manner tomorrow as it seems very reasonable.
Hmmm...I do not want to
just go in with just the -mones on as I really like the Acqua Di Gio cologne and others seem to be big fans of it. I
want to put a very light spray of it on the -mones, so I think i will just spritz the air and walk into the
cologne.
Also, I apply anti-perspirant deodorant to various areas of my body, including my armpits, chest, lower
abdomen, etc. Would this affect things in anyway, especially if pheros were applied to any of those areas? I mean, I
DO perspire a lot especially at work, so I think it's good for me, but what do you think?
nonscents
06-24-2004, 12:20 PM
My target audience
will be 16-19 year old females, ranging from white to hispanic to black.
Handtohand:
I very much
enjoy your posts. Keep them coming. They make fascinating reading.
I have some questions for you. JV Kohl, the
formulator of SOE, the coauthor of a book by the same name, and a frequent contributor to this very forum, has
written that Asians don't have the pheromone output that other races do and that they are more easily offended by
the phero output of other races.
Please note, the above is a very loose paraphrase of some pages from his book
that I read almost two years ago. I will be glad to be corrected if it is not corrected.
Please also note that I
am quite familiar with the genetic arguments against the concept of race.
If JVK's assessment were correct and
there were valid racial genetic characteristics and that one of those characteristics was the lack of apocrine
glands in Asians, then you, my boy, are an anomaly. You are an outlier. You are an Asian with an apparent abundance
of very active apocrine glands.
Now, I am not a social scientist but thanks to the magic of the internet I can
find almost effortless some US juvenile crime statistics by race:
<LI>White youth were arrested for
72% of the crime and made up 79% of the youth population.
<LI>Black youth were arrested for 25% of the crime and
made up 16% of the youth population.
<LI>American Indian youth composed 1% of the juvenile population and were
arrested for 1% of the crime.
Youth of Asian descent composed 4% of the juvenile population and were arrested for
2% of the crime.
The above quote, if accurate, demonstrates that Asian youth have a much lower crime rate
than that of any other race for which statistics are kept.
But you, H2H, are a self-described Asian male with
smelly, attractive sweat and a criminal record at a relatively young age.
I hope that you take my post in the
manner in which it is intended: with appreciation and curiosity. I am very glad that you have been so open in
describing your life to us. Your posts represent the best of what this board has to offer: an opportunity to sift
through a vast amount of data so that we can attempt to formulate meaningful generalizations.
If I were a
biologically-oriented social scientist (which I am not, nor is DrST, but JVK most certainly is) I would explore the
possibility of a correlation between a race's pheromone output and its crime rate.
(I am not a
biologically-oriented social scientists because I believe that cultural and historical influences have, generally,
greater explanatory power than biological ones. But, being scientifically oriented, I am always willing to revise my
beliefs to accord with additional evidence.)
That having been said, I have a few questions for you, H2H.
1. In
this and other threads, you have given wonderful descriptions of how women sniff you, even when you are not visible
to them immediately (like when their back is turned) and then make evident their attraction to you. Are Asian women
ever the ones who seek you out in this manner? (I would expect the answer to be no if Asians are truly turned off by
phero signals.)
2. Are both of your parents Asian?
3. Do you think that you do not seek Asian women as
targets because you know from past experience that they do not find you attractive?
(This is the internet and I
respect your right to decline to reveal any personal information. I only ask these questions because you have
already disclosed so much that is so personal and so provocative.)
PS: prior to editing I asked why in one of
your other lengthy threads JustPeachy's responses to you were not visible to me. A moderator has informed me that
they were deleted. This really is not germane to the topic of my posting here.
handtohandking
06-24-2004, 03:51 PM
Handtohand:
I very much enjoy your posts. Keep them coming. They make fascinating reading.
I have some questions for you. JV Kohl, the formulator of SOE, the coauthor of a book by the same name, and a
frequent contributor to this very forum, has written that Asians don't have the pheromone output that other races
do and that they are more easily offended by the phero output of other races.
Please note, the above is a very
loose paraphrase of some pages from his book that I read almost two years ago. I will be glad to be corrected if it
is not corrected.
Please also note that I am quite familiar with the genetic arguments against the concept of
race.
If JVK's assessment were correct and there were valid racial genetic characteristics and that one of
those characteristics was the lack of apocrine glands in Asians, then you, my boy, are an anomaly. You are an
outlier. You are an Asian with an apparent abundance of very active apocrine glands.
Now, I am not a social
scientist but thanks to the magic of the internet I can find almost effortless some US juvenile crime statistics by
race:
The above quote, if accurate, demonstrates that Asian youth have a much lower crime rate than that of any
other race for which statistics are kept.
But you, H2H, are a self-described Asian male with smelly, attractive
sweat and a criminal record at a relatively young age.
I hope that you take my post in the manner in which it is
intended: with appreciation and curiosity. I am very glad that you have been so open in describing your life to us.
Your posts represent the best of what this board has to offer: an opportunity to sift through a vast amount of data
so that we can attempt to formulate meaningful generalizations.
If I were a biologically-oriented social
scientist (which I am not, nor is DrST, but JVK most certainly is) I would explore the possibility of a correlation
between a race's pheromone output and its crime rate.
(I am not a biologically-oriented social scientists
because I believe that cultural and historical influences have, generally, greater explanatory power than biological
ones. But, being scientifically oriented, I am always willing to revise my beliefs to accord with additional
evidence.)
That having been said, I have a few questions for you, H2H.
1. In this and other threads, you have
given wonderful descriptions of how women sniff you, even when you are not visible to them immediately (like when
their back is turned) and then make evident their attraction to you. Are Asian women ever the ones who seek you out
in this manner? (I would expect the answer to be no if Asians are truly turned off by phero signals.)
2. Are
both of your parents Asian?
3. Do you think that you do not seek Asian women as targets because you know from
past experience that they do not find you attractive?
(This is the internet and I respect your right to decline
to reveal any personal information. I only ask these questions because you have already disclosed so much that is so
personal and so provocative.)
PS: prior to editing I asked why in one of your other lengthy threads
JustPeachy's responses to you were not visible to me. A moderator has informed me that they were deleted. This
really is not germane to the topic of my posting here.
Hey nonscents, how you doing...
I have no
problem sharing my world with other people, it will only help myself and others understand...
And yes, I DO
think I am an anomaly for my race, in fact. I've always thought that, but never could gather up the facts as to why
it was. A little interesting tidbit about myself: I can speak little to no Korean although I have lived in a
Korean-speaking household the majority of my life.
1) Yes, women sniff me at times, and the majority of the
time it isn't Asian women, especially Korean. However, females of more southeast Asian/Polynesian descent are more
open to it.
2) Both of my parents are fullblooded Korean. And just to inform you, I take completely after my
father, who was exactly like me.
3) To tell you the truth, I have never found Asian women to be too attractive.
Not saying that I don't find them beautiful or anything, I just am not physically attracted to them in general, and
it's mutual. They don't seem to like me too much neither, but women of other races seem to like me just fine
:cool: . And again, I'm referring more about Chinese/Korean/Japanese when saying "Asian", as I do find women of
places like Vietnam and the Phillipines to be attractive.
And I do think pheromone output and crime rate do
correlate, since -mone output is influenced greatly by hormonal levels, and the more testosterone you have, the more
-none you will put out and the more aggressive in general you will be.
And again, I don't find this kinda
stuff offensive or controversial, since I very much embrace it because it can lead to truckloads of new
information...
JustPeachy...:confused: A Houdini act...
Gegogi
06-24-2004, 06:53 PM
"JV Kohl...has written that
Asians don't have the pheromone output that other races do and that they are more easily offended by the phero
output of other races."
That statement sounds like bad science justifying a gross generalization! Asians vary
considerably in physical, racial, diet and cultural backgrounds. Japanese and Koreans tend to spend a lot of time in
the shower or bath and may not tolerate "funk" as much as other Asians. That's a cultural difference not
characteristic of all Asians. Yes, the body chemistry you inherit has something to do with it, but traditional East
Asian diets cause less body odor than a typical American diet. Body odor and pheromone output aren't irrevocably
linked. I've known and detected many pheromone rich Asian females, mostly Filipina and Japanese, and they weren't
unclean or stinky. I assume it was copulins driving me nuts as they weren't always attractive or desirable in other
ways.
I've been lurking around this forum for a few weeks and enjoyed the reading! So I thought I'd
introduce myself. I'm also of Korean descent and live in balmy Honolulu. And yes, most of the population here is of
pan Asian and Pacific Islander descent. I've been experimenting with "The Edge" and feel like I have BO for the
first time in my life, even after almost swimming in Burberry Weekend. A very unusual forum with lots of true
characters.
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