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kossBass
06-16-2004, 02:50 PM
hey i'm back

:$ heh n'ways i was wondering which one out of these 3 should i buy ... AE, PI, or Chikara ? Okay

heres some info about myself
Age: 19
Sex: Male lookin

for female (for sex :p)
height: 5'8"
weight: 128lbs
age target: 16ish - 25ish :p
atmosphere: canada

- so mm.. hot cold hot cold :p you get what i mean
place where mostly at: school, mall, just outdoors (and nope no

clubs yet :( )
nationality: indian
nationality target: any :p (prefferred whites)
personality: very open ..

funny ..
... thanks a lot guys you guys are great

Mtnjim
06-16-2004, 03:04 PM
I'd start with a couple o'

Kitt-Katt bars. at 5' 8" you might want to try to get to 135-140lbs. :)
(When I was your age, I was skinny

too!)

CJ01
06-16-2004, 03:21 PM
5' 8" you might want to try to

get to 135-140lbs. :) nah,lean is good :) well unless it´s muscle you´re talking about :p

Mtnjim
06-16-2004, 03:36 PM
nah,lean is good :)

well unless it´s muscle you´re talking about :p

Ya', lean is good, but at 128, I'm picturing

Biafra!

Mtnjim
06-16-2004, 04:02 PM
:D I´ve seen some very

good looking indian guys but I ain´t too fond of the food

Who´s Biafra?
Saying put on weight is not

that good imo,working out and building up a little muscle is better :) and muscle is heavier than fat



CJ

Maybe I misspelled it? Or perhaps ya gotta be old to remember. Biafra was an area in Africa

that had a great famine. The most common thing you would see on TV about the place was pictures of people

starving--just skin and bones.
I only suggested a little weight--bulking up with muscle he could probably go to

150-155 lbs.

:)

Ash
06-16-2004, 04:03 PM
Don't you pay any attention to those

non PC posts kB !

It's hard to answer your question though and I don't no many here that just use one product.

When I first got on the Forum I read as much as I could and purchased what I thought would work best for a guy like

me/ Experimentation is the only way to do it really. Finding out what's right for you that is. What with your

weight being what it is you might be a little "speedy" metabolism wise. I'm like that myself. A little on the thin

side but very much all muscle CJ! Anyway, with my "speedy" metabolism heavy None products don't do it for me. If

you're like me you might want to try something like SOE first off. What have you purchased so far? What's in your

current inventory that is? Let us know that and maybe we can help you come up with a good "next purchase"

a.k.a.
06-16-2004, 05:33 PM
kossBass,
I'd go for the AE.

It's got a very masculine vibe.
I'm also 5'8". 14Olbs but I'm sure you can still get laid at 128.

tounge
06-16-2004, 07:59 PM
hey i'm back :$

heh n'ways i was wondering which one out of these 3 should i buy ... AE, PI, or Chikara ? Okay

heres some info about myself
Age: 19
Sex: Male

lookin for female (for sex :p)
height: 5'8"
weight: 128lbs
age target: 16ish - 25ish

:p
atmosphere: canada - so mm.. hot cold hot cold :p you get what i mean
place where mostly at: school, mall,

just outdoors (and nope no clubs yet :( )
nationality: indian
nationality target: any :p (prefferred

whites)
personality: very open .. funny ..
... thanks a lot guys you guys are great





Koss Bass, why don't you get SOE. You are only 19 and this to me is the best for your age group. You

also seem to hung up on getting sex. The more you dwell on it the less likely you'll be to see it.

Get a

decent education, University, Trade School or Military training. Once you land a decent job, and take care of

yourself, physically. You will have so many women to pick from, you won't know where to start. Ignore your

self-improvement and you'll be lucky to land a job mopping up splooge in a porno shop. Then no amount of Pheros

will help you.

kossBass
06-16-2004, 08:05 PM
Ash:
i tried SOE :p with lil

and lots Standalone .. so far nothing for around 3weeks then i had SOE + NPA (7:3ish) still nada .. then i tried NPA

nothing :( .. then i tried TE still nothing :( but 1 time (only once) i got hits from men lol atleast for now i

believe this stuff works ( wheni mean hits i mean HITS he followed me around freaked me but happy that it works) :D

.. well now i have NPA (standalone) TE (standalone and SOE (messed up with npa forgot the ratio lol i put too much

npa and stuff :p)

Aka. Thanks bud thats what i was thinking in the lines off AE sounds good .. just need to

hear more ppl saying it :D den it's all settle :D...


i luv u guys .. ur all very helpful thanks agaain

belgareth
06-16-2004, 08:12 PM
As strange as it sounds, I

agree with tounge on most of his comments here. Worry less about the mones and concern yourself with improving you.

Work out and build yourself up some. Get some education and be able to show the world a confidant, successful

person. You will have womnen hitting on you with or without mones. It's like we've all said so many times before:

Mones are only part of the package, you need the rest as well. If you have all the pieces it will work for you.

kossBass
06-16-2004, 08:18 PM
As strange as it

sounds, I agree with tounge on most of his comments here. Worry less about the mones and concern yourself with

improving you. Work out and build yourself up some. Get some education and be able to show the world a confidant,

successful person. You will have womnen hitting on you with or without mones. It's like we've all said so many

times before: Mones are only part of the package, you need the rest as well. If you have all the pieces it will work

for you.

hehe yah man i am working out nowadays (3 times a week) .. i kill my self thats why only 3

times a week ... and i'm also studing i just lik'd to speed up process :p using pheros and whey :D lol ..

tounge
06-16-2004, 09:04 PM
Yes kossbass, take belgareth's

advice. Otherwise you might end up being a dirty old man and only Chikara will help you.

TRock
06-16-2004, 09:11 PM
A little on the thin

side but very much all muscle CJ! Anyway, with my "speedy" metabolism heavy None products don't do it for me. If

you're like me you might want to try something like SOE first off. What have you purchased so far? What's in your

current inventory that is? Let us know that and maybe we can help you come up with a good "next purchase"


does nones work better for bigger framed muscular guys? why doesn't it work for guys with speedy metabolisms?

DZorro
06-16-2004, 10:56 PM
does nones work

better for bigger framed muscular guys? why doesn't it work for guys with speedy metabolisms?
Yes none

does works better for bigger framed muscular guys, because none projects an image of a strong person, and let's

just say, a skinny looking guy who where's lot's of none doesn't really projects that strength.

That's why

when you workout alot you will eventually get better results, then when when you don't workout.


DZorro,

Ash
06-17-2004, 12:51 AM
Yes none does works

better for bigger framed muscular guys, because none projects an image of a strong person, and let's just say, a

skinny looking guy who where's lot's of none doesn't really projects that strength.

That's why when you

workout alot you will eventually get better results, then when when you don't workout.


DZorro,




I agree with DZ here. Sometimes when I use a heavy None product I will get WTF looks from women. It's like the

sig I'm putting out doesn't match up with the way I look. Muscles or not. Beyond that my natural "speedy" met

seems to be pumping out too much natural None. Using WAGG and none/nol/ WAGG mixes is what started to get me good

results.

belgareth
06-17-2004, 05:43 AM
Yes kossbass,

take belgareth's advice. Otherwise you might end up being a dirty old man and only Chikara will help you.


Peace tounge, it was a joke.

Besides, getting older just gives a person a wider field to play in. :) And the

years of experience without mones make it easier.

kossBass
06-17-2004, 09:56 AM
kk guys .. should i get AE cuz

i got NPA and TE ... whats best with both of those .. AE or PI or Cik. thanks again :P

CJ01
06-17-2004, 12:30 PM
Yes none does works better for

bigger framed muscular guys, because none projects an image of a strong person, and let's just say, a skinny

looking guy who where's lot's of none doesn't really projects that strength.
good point. On the other

hand it´s the guy who does not hae this particualr appearance who could use a dose of none in order to help them

stand out and project more of a masculine image. And the bigger guys find nol useful to help come across as less

intimidating.
However at 19,I agree with tounge-SOE is a good one to start off with.

CJ

CptKipling
06-17-2004, 04:04 PM
I agree with DZ

here. Sometimes when I use a heavy None product I will get WTF looks from women. It's like the sig I'm putting out

doesn't match up with the way I look. Muscles or not. Beyond that my natural "speedy" met seems to be pumping out

too much natural None. Using WAGG and none/nol/ WAGG mixes is what started to get me good results.
I think

skinny guys can get away with it, there are some skinny alphas so why not? The key is to act alpha; a skinny guy

wearing -none and not acting alpha will not fair as well as a muscular guy wearing -none and not acting alpha.



Caution is needed with younger girls (below 20 or so), because the cuter nicey-nice girls may not respond so well

to -none (I hate to stereotype, but I'm (struggling ;) ) to describe "innocent" girls). You may get extra

attention/respect, but a sexual responce will be rarer than with older more "active" girls. In such cases a product

such as SOE or Chikara may be more effective because they help with rapport and bonding etc., which may be the best

option in some cases.

Perhaps buy AE or TE and SOE or

Chikara?

franki
06-17-2004, 04:47 PM
I think skinny

guys can get away with it, there are some skinny alphas so why not? The key is to act alpha; a skinny guy wearing

-none and not acting alpha will not fair as well as a muscular guy wearing -none and not acting alpha.

Caution

is needed with younger girls (below 20 or so), because the cuter nicey-nice girls may not respond so well to -none

(I hate to stereotype, but I'm (struggling ;) ) to describe "innocent" girls). You may get extra attention/respect,

but a sexual responce will be rarer than with older more "active" girls. In such cases a product such as SOE or

Chikara may be more effective because they help with rapport and bonding etc., which may be the best option in some

cases.


Wow, you sound like an expert! ;) :D

kossBass
06-17-2004, 06:49 PM
sound? heh is he an expert :D

.. jk .. hey where do i find Chikara n'ways can't see it on the site .. or i'm BLIND :( thanks guys

franki
06-17-2004, 06:58 PM
The Chikara is sold out at the

moment. But it will come back in store!