View Full Version : Former President Ronald Reagan has died aged 93
Elana
06-05-2004, 02:24 PM
:( very sad
franki
06-05-2004, 02:24 PM
Now I understand why they halted
golf coverage for half an hour..
Sad. :(
DrSmellThis
06-05-2004, 03:50 PM
He was a genuine, impassioned
patriot; inspired wordsman; and optimist. Maybe he can help us earthlings better from where he's now gone.
Holmes
06-05-2004, 03:52 PM
He was a
genuine, passionate patriot; inspired wordsman; and optimist. Maybe he can help us earthlings better from where
he's now gone.
Amen.
........
EXIT63
06-05-2004, 06:19 PM
........Mr. Gorbachev, tear down
this wall!
To the man who crushed the Soviet Union.
Godspeed
EXIT63
06-05-2004, 06:19 PM
And may God Bless America.
dping28
06-05-2004, 06:22 PM
That is very sad. :(
Watcher
06-06-2004, 01:41 AM
Dont forget contra affair - but
yes crushing communism was a good step.
EXIT63
06-06-2004, 04:29 AM
Yeah, and when you die we're all
gonna say. "Don't forget that homo thing but his field research was excellent".
CptKipling
06-06-2004, 08:35 AM
Yeah, and when
you die we're all gonna say. "Don't forget that homo thing but his field research was excellent".
A fine
way with words, Mr Exit doth have. :D
Gossamer_2701
06-06-2004, 09:12 AM
:( He was a great man, as
well as a great leader.... he will be sadly missed. :(
Holmes
06-06-2004, 09:19 AM
93 is far too young.
Goodnight
Bonzo, R.I.P.
Elana
06-06-2004, 09:28 AM
A fine way with
words, Mr Exit doth have. :D
He most certainly does :D
belgareth
06-06-2004, 09:46 AM
:( very
sad
Our last truly good president. 'Tis a sad day.
CptKipling
06-11-2004, 10:11 AM
"The future doesn't belong to
the faint hearted, it belongs to the brave."
Cool guy.
Pancho1188
06-11-2004, 10:21 AM
I watched him go by today...
:)
:(
Gossamer_2701
06-11-2004, 04:26 PM
I watched
him go by today... :)
:(
It was on the tv at work today..... it was quite moving.... he would have
been proud. :)
metroman
06-11-2004, 08:54 PM
It's like Stalin died or
something...they might as well suspend regular programming & play funeral dirges all day...Dont worry you're not
brainwashed America...go back to sleep...ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
It's like Stalin
died or something...they might as well suspend regular programming & play funeral dirges all day...Dont worry
you're not brainwashed America...go back to sleep...ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
It's not that you don't have any class
Met, it's more like you don't have anything at all. I mean what... they preempt your favorite Lizard Cartoon
show?
I just gave you bad Rep for the Stalin thing. Geez!
Sexyredhead
06-12-2004, 06:10 AM
I'm glad you did and said
something about it, Ash. You saved me the trouble.
Gossamer_2701
06-12-2004, 06:51 AM
It's like
Stalin died or something...they might as well suspend regular programming & play funeral dirges all day...Dont worry
you're not brainwashed America...go back to sleep...ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
You know Met... if this were a
communist board, you would have already been taken out back and shot.... But it's not.... its an American board, so
say whatever you like.... all you doing is highlighting your own lack of character.
Enjoy your opinion and your
right to express it Met.... because it was great men like President Reagan that make it possible to do so.
EXIT63
06-12-2004, 06:51 PM
"DUMBASS"!
-Red Forman
DrSmellThis
06-12-2004, 07:56 PM
Kidding
around and trash talking is cool sometimes, but a lot of people want to "spit" on someone because they disagree with
their politics or religion. They belong to opposite political and religious viewpoints, of course. But moreover,
they identify themselves too much with those kinds of limited beliefs, and not enough with what's deeper inside
themselves.
This is self defeating to that deeper part. It's not even just that we're all Americans (mostly
the case here). We're all humans. We're also earthlings! Unless we come from those deeper selves, our unchecked,
surface selves will defeat them. We are literally volunteering for cancer of the soul.
So believing this, I
didn't see a problem praising Reagan; crying about his death; or feeling sentimentally moved in general about human
losses of loved ones; even though I saw many of his policies as destructive and ultimately wrong-headed for
fundamental human purposes. I loved his uplifting humanistic speeches, which were truly gifts to the country and
world. Also the 80's were a different time, when the Soviet threat was truly massive (hundreds of Soviet nuclear
missles aimed all over Europe, etc.) and relatively easy to comprehend. The man truly had some genuine positives
to him, a measure of integrity (Who cares if he smoked pot in the White House? ;)); and many of his worst political
"enemies" (e.g., Tip) saw that clearly. Plus, he just died. Deaths of fellow earthlings present easy opportunities
for our best, deepest selves to emerge. It's a wide open look at the basket from 10 feet in this respect, or should
I say casket? :D It's a moment of cease-fire.
As examples of self defeat, if someone with liberal views
wants to implement values of compassion, they risk muddying up their own minds and weakening fundamental projects
when indulging in their hate or disrepect (we all feel these things); just as those with conservative views
do when so indulging, reinforcing the very stereotypes that most have crippled themselves and their projects
politically.
The mutal disrespect here is therefore suggestive of resignation and admission of defeat on both
sides. :( Having this attitude, as we all know, is not the best way to get laid! ;)
I read through your post twice Doc
and I really have no idea what you were trying to say. It's possible that some of what you wrote was aimed at me.
Maybe all of it. I don't know. I don't care. My reply to Met had nothing to do with his politics. It had to do
with his stupidity, his brainless insensitivity and his piss-ant whining because his TV programing got interrupted.
Simple as that Doc. No F'ing politics involved at all.
DrSmellThis
06-12-2004, 08:27 PM
I read the conversation as a
whole and wrote for everybody. Nothing personal. Honest! I didn't look at names before saying what seemingly needed
to be said here, as clearly as I could (I'm too lazy to edit any more to make it make more sense.). I didn't
remember exactly who said which thing. It was, and is up to you whether it applies to you. Sounds like you decided
it doesn't. Cool by me! :)
Though I read the
conversation as a whole, I didn't look at names before saying as much of what seemingly needed to be
said, as clearly as I could. I didn't remember exactly who said which thing. It was, and is up to you
whether it applies to you. Sounds like you decided it doesn't. Cool. :)
Nothing needed to be said
except that Met was an insensitive ass. There was nothing political in what he wrote. Just stupidity!
I admire Ron and Nancy’s
relationship.
They’re an inspiration because they were inseparable.
That what I call devotion, all those
years together with all the pressures and temptation that goes with living in the spot light but they held it
together.
Today they took the once proud institute of marriage and turned it into a %%^^ing reality game
show.
The sad part is that now that Ron is gone Nancy wont be far behind because of the devotion and
love.
A true inspiration in my opinion.
DCW
metroman
06-12-2004, 09:03 PM
Thought this was an interesting
cartoon...it's a little hard to read but just click on it...Guess I'm not the only one with a contrary
opinon...(shocked emoticon from the old forum)
JustPeachy
06-12-2004, 09:18 PM
Look, metro. On the night
Ronzo got elected for the first time, I drank myself into a crying jag. I was that unhappy about it. I totally
detested the man and everything he was trying to do. Time passed. I still don't agree with a lot of what he did.
But I believe he was an honest man and he set the gold standard for maintaining a sense of dignity in the office.
When George Washington died, the mourning went on for 8 months, and there was a nationwide shortage of black fabric
that took nearly a year to clear up. So I think you'll probably survive a single weekend of having the boob tube
interrupted. Turn it off. You might actually use the break to think for yourself instead being told what your
reality is and what your values should be 24/7. You might even like it. Your cartoon is in at least as bad taste as
your first crack. Let it go, dude. He's gone.
I didn't see any politics in your
first post Met just your tiny lizard mind at work again. You and the Doc have managed to swing the whole Thread
around now though. Congrats guys! Could this be a Lizard People conspiracy? Whatever. I ain't going there with
either of you! You go ahead and flame the dead all you want Met. A truly class act would have at least waited until
some dirt hit the coffin first but then you were pretty upset about your TV being interrupted. I must say that as
upset as you were I'm kinda surprised to see you here tonight. Now that programing is back to normal I would have
thought you'd be back watching your Favorite Lizard People Cartoon show.
tounge
06-12-2004, 10:11 PM
1980 in America. An inept peanut
farmer from Georgia in the Whitehouse. We had hostages for over a year in Iran.The military morale was low. Soviet
and other Marxist expansion moving all over the world. Unemployment very high. 21% intrest rates. Major energy
crisis.
On the night, Ronald Wilson Reagan beat the Georgia farmer in a land slide, I cried tears of joy. It
was my first time to be allowed to vote for President. I was pround to vote for President Reagan. And after 8 years
he didn't let me down. History doesn't lie. It will show for the most part President Reagan's policies were sound
and successful.
metroman
06-13-2004, 08:44 AM
As far as I'm concerned the
coverage was backwards...what was given to Reagan should've been given to Ray Charles...Ray Charles contributed a
lot more positive, joy & happiness to this world than Reagan could ever dream of. Ray Charles was a true
humanitarian & creative genius...Not a televsion network manufactured icon...
Elana
06-13-2004, 09:22 AM
Like it or not, it is what we as
American's do when a President dies.
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperi
or/8887284.htm (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/8887284.htm)
einstein
06-13-2004, 09:28 AM
I like being able to make fun of
any celebrity whenever I want. But it seems that whenever one of them dies we can't do it for a few weeks.
Instant temporary sainthood upon death.
When Nixon died, nobody said anything bad about him for about a month.
Sonny Bono died, and for a couple weeks he was talked about as a good politician, not just Cher's less talented
sidekick. Kurt Cobain died, and he's still revered by people my age, even though the seattle grunge movement is
long dead.
The round-tables I saw on TV this morning were saying the exact same things about Reagan as you guys
are. But that cartoon made me realize, until now about 75% of the coverage on Reagan was about his personality.
One the day he died, the TV people would briefly say something good about one of his policies, and then tell a
couple stories about how personable he was. Today is the first day I've seen people actually debate his
policies.
Metroman, I feel for ya. Maybe I'm cold and heartless, but I have no interest in seeing Reagan's
coffin on TV. He's dead, part of history. No longer a current event. This sort of thing happens anytime a
celebrity dies. In two months we'll be able to insult Reagan to our hearts content, and nobody will be vehemently
defending him like now.
dping28
06-13-2004, 09:41 AM
If it was on every channel you
turn on and had it on forever then yeah i can see being upset over it. But the man was our president, wether you
agree with his views or not. he deserves some respect. a couple days i dont think is too much to ask for. Least that
is my opinion.
JustPeachy
06-13-2004, 09:43 AM
That's so true, einstein.
Observing the memorial is an act of respect attached to the family and friends who mourn the loss as much (or even
more than) the person who has passed away. It's such a simple and decent act. You don't have to enjoy or approve.
Just do and be done.
a.k.a.
06-13-2004, 09:53 AM
Pardon my cynicism, but I don’t see
this as sensitive network executives helping loved ones grieve their loss. It’s a mass media cluster f@#k. Everybody
scrambling to squeeze as much profit and political milage as possible out of an event before the brand name’s
forgotten.
I’ve already gotten junk mail trying to sell me Ron and Nancy portraits. And we all know it won’t be
long before there’s a new Ray Charles box set.
metroman
06-13-2004, 12:35 PM
Like it or not, it
is what we as American's do when a President dies.
http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsupe
rior/8887284.htm (http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/8887284.htm)
I wouldn't presume to speak for all American's...Rather it is what some, or
a lot of, or maybe even most of...but I wouldn't say it's what all Americans do.
Excellent points Einstein
& AKA!
Elana
06-13-2004, 12:39 PM
Oh man....Look....I am saying that
it is how we as American's cover the death of a President. We have been doing it since Kennedy was shot. I am not
saying that all American's have to like it or watch the coverage or be happy that it is a federal holiday. I am
saying that that is the way we do it, for both Democrats and Republicans
DrSmellThis
06-13-2004, 12:58 PM
Well, yeah, of course
Republicans are milking it for themselves a bit. But two wrongs don't make a right. It didn't hurt to grieve over,
say, a Nixon. People went back to hating him (or his actions) just fine, thanks. But it's a nice human
gesture for any public figure in one's own culture, particularly a leader. Grief ties folks in a community, nation
or larger culture together.
Another aspect: Unfortunately for our short-term gratification -- the immediate kind
that comes with black and white thinking -- Satanizing or dehumanizing one's enemy obliterates the very
understanding that leads to solutions to the problems that that enemy might create. (Here comes the "I read it twice
and it still doesn't make sense" comments. :D)
metroman
06-13-2004, 01:11 PM
Well, yeah,
of course Republicans are milking it for themselves a bit. But two wrongs don't make a right. It didn't hurt to
grieve over, say, a Nixon. People went back to hating him (or his actions) just fine, thanks. But it's a nice
human gesture for any public figure in one's own culture, particularly a leader. Grief ties folks in a
community, nation or larger culture together.
Another aspect: Unfortunately for our short-term gratification
-- the immediate kind that comes with black and white thinking -- Satanizing or dehumanizing one's enemy
obliterates the very understanding that leads to solutions to the problems that that enemy might create. (Here comes
the "I read it twice and it still doesn't make sense" comments. :D)
"Run that by me again...what the
hell are you talking about?" :)
Tricky Dick didn't get a State Funeral like Ronnie did...Thats like
Washington's way of giving negative rep points...
Pancho1188
06-14-2004, 05:17 AM
I hate when they have 24/7
coverage of something on every major station when a good way to move on with your life is to get away from it...
...so I read a book and hit the gym.
I shun TV during the following times:
Olympics
9/11 (I don't
believe it's healthy to watch those towers fall for the 2,000th time...I also don't believe in trying to point the
finger when it's over and blaming someone in the government is not going to turn back time and prevent
disaster)
Major events I do not care for
I'm glad everyone else is having a fine time watching these
events, but I would prefer to live my life as anyone involved in these events would want me to do. They're
happy...I'm happy. It's all good. :)
Sexyredhead
06-14-2004, 05:39 AM
It's amazing the amount of
stuff you get done once you learn you can turn the TV off. :D
dping28
06-14-2004, 06:36 AM
I never watch TV except for maybe
one tv show a week. Now turning off the computer is a whole other story. :)
belgareth
06-14-2004, 06:37 AM
It's
amazing the amount of stuff you get done once you learn you can turn the TV off. :D
Watching television
has become such a pointless waste of time. I haven't bothered with it in years.
Sexyredhead
06-14-2004, 07:47 AM
The last thing I watched on
tv was the Stanley Cup playoffs. That's my only use for a tv anymore, other than as something to play a DVD on.
Elana
06-14-2004, 07:48 AM
Who won? The Jets? :D
Pancho1188
06-14-2004, 07:49 AM
Da Bears.
Da
Bulls.
tounge
06-14-2004, 07:54 AM
Who won? The Jets?
:D
Yes. The Tampa Bay Jets. The Stanley Cup is in Florida, where it belongs. And my Canadian
friends are pissed. AH, life is good.:)
Elana
06-14-2004, 07:55 AM
I knew that, Tounge :D
Pancho1188
06-14-2004, 08:03 AM
Yes. The Tampa
Bay Jets. The Stanley Cup is in Florida, where it belongs. And my Canadian friends are pissed. AH, life is
good.:)
Having the Stanley Cup "belong" in Florida is like having a team called the "Juneau Icicles"
dominate the World Series.
That being said, congrats. ;)
"Jamaica has a bobsled team..." --- Cool
Runnings
Yes. The Tampa Bay
Jets. The Stanley Cup is in Florida, where it belongs. And my Canadian friends are pissed. AH, life is
good.:)
The "Tampa Bay Jets" !!??? you must be joking.
The Tampa Bay Lightning, no worries the
best players are still Canadian...and er Russsian and Checz,,Sweds...
DCW
tounge
06-14-2004, 08:42 AM
The "Tampa Bay Jets"
!!??? you must be joking.
The Tampa Bay Lightning, no worries the best players are still Canadian...and er
Russsian and Checz,,Sweds...
DCW
No. The Lighting are a New York football team
that plays in New Jersey.
And I am worried, I still think the best hockey players are Kenyan and Chileians.
It is always chilly in Chile, so they have better weather to practice in.
Numanoid
06-14-2004, 09:49 AM
:( He was a great man, as well as a great leader.... he will be sadly missed.
:(
After 4 years of Jimmy Carter nearly anyone would have done. Still I liked Ronald Reagan and
may he rest in peace. He certainly did bring a lot of morale back to the country.
Mtnjim
06-14-2004, 09:54 AM
"I hate when they have 24/7
coverage of something on every major station when a good way to move on with your life is to get away from
it...
...so I read a book and hit the gym."
Most of you are too young to have seen the Kennedy
Funeral!
Unlike this past weeks coverage, the coverage was 24/7 from an hour after the shooting until a couple of
hours after the burial, and the nation was glued to their TVs. A different age altogether!
Oh, yes, you know
that tape of Jack Rubie shooting Oswald? The first time I saw it, it wasn't on tape!
Pancho1188
06-14-2004, 10:07 AM
"I hate when
they have 24/7 coverage of something on every major station when a good way to move on with your life is to get away
from it...
...so I read a book and hit the gym."
Most of you are too young to have seen the Kennedy
Funeral!
Unlike this past weeks coverage, the coverage was 24/7 from an hour after the shooting until a couple of
hours after the burial, and the nation was glued to their TVs. A different age altogether!
Oh, yes, you know
that tape of Jack Rubie shooting Oswald? The first time I saw it, it wasn't on tape!
Some people
are still glued to their TVs...WTC had people glued for days...weeks...I just think that Reagan's passing was
inevitable since he had Alt---however you spell that...he lost his memory. (:rolleyes: at myself) Had he been
shot...again (yeah, I remember the first one)...and killed at the height of his presidential career, things
might've been different...that's not to say that millions weren't watching this event...I bet they were. In
fact, everyone here was itching to be a part of a "great moment in history"...
Wow, I'd love to hear that
Oswald story, by the way... *:ooo: smiley from old forum*
Mtnjim
06-14-2004, 11:06 AM
"Wow, I'd love to hear that Oswald
story, by the way...'
Not much of a story.
I was in 10th grade, was sitting in front of the TV drinking
some OJ. There was live coverage of Oswald being transfered, and all of a sudden...
Well, you've seen the tape
in History class, I'm sure.
Elana
06-14-2004, 11:08 AM
"Wow, I'd love to
hear that Oswald story, by the way...'
Not much of a story.
I was in 10th grade, was sitting in front of the
TV drinking some OJ. There was live coverage of Oswald being transfered, and all of a sudden...
Well, you've seen
the tape in History class, I'm sure.
Whoa! I bet you still see that one vividly.
Mtnjim
06-14-2004, 11:20 AM
Whoa! I bet you still
see that one vividly.
Somewhat, however there was worse to come in my life (think Viet Nam).
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