View Full Version : life without the mones
mark1
05-12-2004, 06:36 PM
well i have
stopped using mones
and life is not near as exciting i dont fell that people are near as nice to me plus i dont
feel as social
i quit cause of some side affects that they say dont happen but none the less i still feel they
cause them
did i over use?
i dont know
2 drops aday for about a year and a half of vareous kinds npa soe mix
manyly i have lure and pf too
i really would like to know for shur if these side affects were caused by the mones
i have shown some breast enlargement would like to know if any one else has this
i went to my dr. he says
there only a fraction of a chance that it did
and if it was it should return in about 3 to 5 weeks
i work out
everyday im trying to titen up my pectorals with toning and pushups im 43 years old so i have to take this into
consideration
if i knew concrete the it did not cause this i use them again in a minute but im going to what the
3 to 5 weeks im on week one now
i never got laid with them but they did give me more hellos eye contact and they
if i had the rite mix made me feel good
i have aquestion do ordanary colgnes have these pharos in them??
Sagacious1420
05-12-2004, 07:05 PM
No
disrespect Mark, but I highly doubt that your doctor really knows much, if anything, about pheromones. It\'s not
likely to be a common topic in the medical journals that, hopefully, he keeps up on. Furthermore, if there was any
confusion of terminology used in discussing this w/ your doctor, he may have misunderstood. IIRC, someone attempted
to explain to you that pheromones are not prohormones.
Working out some to improve your muscular fitness
can\'t hurt, but if you begin doing this while you\'re taking time off from using pheros, how could you really
be sure which may have caused any changes? Make sense? Did you have your doctor conduct any tests to check your
hormone levels? At your age the first thing that comes to mind is the possibility of a hormonal imbalance. Try a
google search for \"andropause\" and do some reading. You may find it informative and helpful.
Good luck
to you.
DrSmellThis
05-12-2004, 07:11 PM
Didn\'t
we discuss this very thoroughly already? Remember I asked you to provide more background (lifestyle, physical
issues, etc.) and told you there was 100 things that could cause that? I think your brain is stuck on this pheromone
thing for some reason.
Have you been to an endocrinologist and had a thorough hormone write up?
zeu2003
05-12-2004, 07:28 PM
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and life is not near as exciting i dont fell that
people are near as nice to me plus i dont feel as social
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Mones are
probably not to blame... There\'s a lot of other reasons.. Like a medical condition, depression being one of
them(btw, im not saying you have depression,its just a possibility).
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i quit cause of some side affects that they say dont happen but none the
less i still feel they cause them
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Side effects from 2 drops a day?
What were some of the side effects, can you tell us more about them?
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
i really would like to know for shur if these side affects were caused by the
mones
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again, Probably not, wait for the big guys here to answer ya,
im just a newbie, i wish i knew everything they do.
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i work out everyday im trying to titen up my pectorals with toning and pushups im 43 years old so i have to take
this into consideration
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How much have you been working out? Ya know,
working out too much may cause some trouble.
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i
have aquestion do ordanary colgnes have these pharos in them??
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I
think some of them do, but in a really small amount, and i dont think their purpose is to attract people, i believe
its just part of the chemicals they have on them.
Hope this helps
mark1
05-12-2004, 07:37 PM
i ask my dr
about testosterone testing he said its hard to jug that because its not the same for everyone the only way to tell
is if we would have taken these test for a long time o yes there is a top and a bottom number but thats only a
averge not to that its yours or mine mite be normal
4 me lets say we would have had to take the test when i was 25
evry year till now to find out if ive dropped my guess is that i have i just know my body i
i will look up thise
other dr
zeu2003
05-12-2004, 07:56 PM
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Bottle
05-13-2004, 08:50 AM
Yes
Mark1
I have found the same thing, My love handles have gotten enormous since I\'ve been using mones, my
breast are fine I think, maybe a lil more pert.
I cant stop feeling them though, you know cos I\'m
concerned about them getting pert. Women tend to speak to them rather to my face, its insulting. They do this at the
swimming bathe\'s when i\'m exposed. I stopped going cos It makes me insecure now, because I think about it
24/7. I don’t want to go into details. But this one Lady just looked at me like a piece of meat. Whilst I made light
conversation about the buoyancy of the supplied arm wings. Well I\'m so angry about that...anyway...
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CptKipling
05-13-2004, 09:11 AM
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well i have stopped using mones
and life is not
near as exciting i dont fell that people are near as nice to me plus i dont feel as social
i quit cause of some
side affects that they say dont happen but none the less i still feel they cause them
did i over use?
i dont
know
2 drops aday for about a year and a half of vareous kinds npa soe mix manyly i have lure and pf too
i
really would like to know for shur if these side affects were caused by the mones
i have shown some breast
enlargement would like to know if any one else has this
i went to my dr. he says there only a fraction of a
chance that it did
and if it was it should return in about 3 to 5 weeks
i work out everyday im trying to titen
up my pectorals with toning and pushups im 43 years old so i have to take this into consideration
if i knew
concrete the it did not cause this i use them again in a minute but im going to what the 3 to 5 weeks im on week
one now
i never got laid with them but they did give me more hellos eye contact and they if i had the rite mix
made me feel good
i have aquestion do ordanary colgnes have these pharos in them??
<hr
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Here we go again.
I don\'t mean to sound rude, but you just come
across as the \"I\'m waiting for the answer I want to hear\" type.
You said you are 43, which suggest a far
more obvious answer. Your estrogen levels are rising due to your age.
You also say you are trying to lose fat
from your chest doing push-ups... Bad bad bad. You can not target fat loss to a certain area, you have to lose it
from your whole body. Consider getting fitter in general, and also getting yourself to a gym and start a good
workout regimen.
koolking1
05-13-2004, 10:27 AM
The ole
Captain\'s right - just walking will help you lose weight everywhere!!! And, if it were me, I\'d take advantage
of it and ask women to feel my titties!!! They\'d love it.
Elana
05-13-2004, 10:33 AM
Yeah....women
love man boobs
That\'s in chapter 3 of my first book
Sagacious1420
05-13-2004, 10:43 AM
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Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in chapter
3 of my first book
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Dammit, when the hell is my book gonna get
here. I\'m missing out on so much vital info. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
dping28
05-13-2004, 11:05 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in chapter
3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im interested in ordering the whole set.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any seminars?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Sagacious1420
05-13-2004, 11:11 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im interested in ordering the whole set.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any seminars?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Seminars are a
great idea, but I still think I would prefer a private tutorial...nothing better than the one-on-one, hands-on
approach. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Bottle
05-13-2004, 11:12 AM
Look you
guys. Stop joking arround. This is a serious issue.
It can be very traumatic when youre body sensitive.
Elana
05-13-2004, 11:51 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im interested in ordering the whole set.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any seminars?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I will be doing
seminars in a town near you sometime this month. I am still working on the dress code for my audience members. So
far I am thinking boxer briefs, no shirt and baby oil.
Seminars $693.95
Thank you for your interest
Mad_Doc
05-13-2004, 12:55 PM
Hey mark1 I
doubt your mones are the cors of the problem, but I have read that synthetic musk compounds getting into the water
supply in western countries can rais estrogen levels. So I\'m always careful not to ingest mones and wash my hans
after applying them, just on the off chance they have the same effect.
DZorro
05-13-2004, 01:06 PM
Man what
gives, man\'s breast starts to grow, like female breast ?? next thing we know a girl comes here saying here her
dick begins to grow /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
But seriously, you don\'t really believe
it\'s the mones do you ???
DZorro,
koolking1
05-13-2004, 01:23 PM
ney Elana,
can I get a price break? say, 7 easy payments of $125 (I\'d do them consecutively, same day, via paypal).
Elana
05-13-2004, 01:36 PM
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ney Elana, can I get a price break? say, 7 easy
payments of $125 (I\'d do them consecutively, same day, via paypal).
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class=\"post\">
That\'s fair. I would still have to charge you the $65.00 paypal handling fee, and I would
need all of the 8 easy payments of $155.00 with an hour, or you won\'t qualify for the price break.
dping28
05-13-2004, 01:54 PM
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</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women
love man boobs
That\'s in chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im
interested in ordering the whole set. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any
seminars? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I will
be doing seminars in a town near you sometime this month. I am still working on the dress code for my audience
members. So far I am thinking boxer briefs, no shirt and baby oil.
Seminars $693.95
Thank you for your
interest
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you be supplying the oil? is it included in the
price? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Elana
05-13-2004, 02:07 PM
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr
/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in
chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im interested in ordering the whole
set. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any seminars?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I will be doing
seminars in a town near you sometime this month. I am still working on the dress code for my audience members. So
far I am thinking boxer briefs, no shirt and baby oil.
Seminars $693.95
Thank you for your interest
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you be supplying the oil? is it included in the price?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Read Chapter 11
titled
\"You men shouldn\'t act so damn cheap. Buy your own frikken baby oil, jerks\"!
DZorro
05-13-2004, 02:11 PM
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
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/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im interested in ordering the whole set.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any seminars?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I will be doing
seminars in a town near you sometime this month. I am still working on the dress code for my audience members. So
far I am thinking boxer briefs, no shirt and baby oil.
Seminars $693.95
Thank you for your interest
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you be supplying the oil? is it included in the price?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Read Chapter 11
titled
\"You men shouldn\'t act so damn cheap. Buy your own frikken baby oil, jerks\"!
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you give me atleast a discount
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif here in europe with the euro is a bit expensive.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
DZorro,
Elana
05-13-2004, 02:15 PM
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
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/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women
love man boobs
That\'s in chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im
interested in ordering the whole set. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any
seminars? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I will
be doing seminars in a town near you sometime this month. I am still working on the dress code for my audience
members. So far I am thinking boxer briefs, no shirt and baby oil.
Seminars $693.95
Thank you for your
interest
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you be supplying the oil? is it included in the
price? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Read
Chapter 11 titled
\"You men shouldn\'t act so damn cheap. Buy your own frikken baby oil, jerks\"!
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you give me atleast a discount
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif here in europe with the euro is a bit expensive.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
DZorro,
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
Read chapter 17, Dzorro
\"Don\'t let those darn foreigners take you for a
ride\".
Everything you need to know is in my book. Stop trying to get advice for free. Just buy the damn book and
stop asking these stupid questions!
Elana, I\'m
interested your book, but before I buy I really want to know that these techniques work.
Can you please relay
some stories - in vivid detail - of the strategies getting you ladies?
mark1
05-14-2004, 12:13 PM
my dr. may not
know about pheromones but he dose know about androgens and estragens witch are in these pheromones
DZorro
05-14-2004, 12:23 PM
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr
/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Yeah....women love man boobs
That\'s in
chapter 3 of my first book
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Im interested in ordering the whole
set. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Do you also plan to have any seminars?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I will be doing
seminars in a town near you sometime this month. I am still working on the dress code for my audience members. So
far I am thinking boxer briefs, no shirt and baby oil.
Seminars $693.95
Thank you for your interest
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you be supplying the oil? is it included in the price?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Read Chapter 11
titled
\"You men shouldn\'t act so damn cheap. Buy your own frikken baby oil, jerks\"!
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Will you give me atleast a discount
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif here in europe with the euro is a bit expensive.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
DZorro,
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
Read chapter 17, Dzorro
\"Don\'t let those darn foreigners take you for a
ride\".
Everything you need to know is in my book. Stop trying to get advice for free. Just buy the damn book and
stop asking these stupid questions!
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Really chapter 17,
haven\'t had time to read that one should check it out though
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
DZorro,
DrSmellThis
05-14-2004, 01:03 PM
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my dr. may not know about pheromones but he dose
know about androgens and estragens witch are in these pheromones
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class=\"post\">
There are no steroidal hormones or estrogens \"in these pheromones\".
mark1
05-14-2004, 07:42 PM
androstenone
androstenol androsterone are not steroidal??
DrSmellThis
05-14-2004, 09:06 PM
These are
pheromones which are hormone (androgen, to be specific) metabolites, but are not considered steroidal hormones, as
far as I know. (This is not my field so I reserve the right to be wrong.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif)As far as we know they don\'t go backwards and become
testosterone or other steroidal hormones, though it is not out of the question that some chemicals (e.g., DHEA-S)
which are not in L-S products, could function as both. There isn\'t much evidence of this in mammalian biology
yet, however, as far as I know. Likewise, there are estrogen and/or pregnenolone metabolites in some of the
women\'s products.
You really ought to look at some other possible causes, which are many and complex. I
have in the past been vulnerable to this condition, but I have no problem with pheromones. Lifestyle is often a
factor, as is tissue sensitivity, liver function, adrenal function, testicular function, excessive masturbation,
drug (e.g., cannabis)/alcohol/medication issues, diet (e.g, hormones added to meat), exposure to chlorine and
related chemicals; bodyfat issues, psychological/emotional conditions, etc. Family doctors don\'t keep up with the
information too well, though an endocrinologist might have some insights, if you can get a referral.
Blood
tests are not the greatest measure of your hormones, though they are all we have for the many specific hormones
(e.g., different kinds of estrogen). Salivary is more reliable. You may want to ask about it.
Why the one
track mind??
mark1
05-14-2004, 10:23 PM
i really would
like to use the mones but i dont want tits the size of coconuts if i knew for shur that they were not the cause id
start them up again i felt unlike like others out side this forum people id talked to that mones work and helped me
alot socially but im am worryed about side affects i will endevor to out why my breast size has increasted o and bye
the way i exerise every day not just pushups and i also think 2 other things being in business myself that these
poeple are affraid of losing customers with dicustions like this do to fear that there is an adverse affect let us
say they find out in time that i am rite that this does cause this u would all be u [censored] creek
and i beleive
that not having serous coversations on here is how they combate this the [censored] givers and jokers i dont smoke
pot so i know its not from that yes i take medication
DrSmellThis
05-15-2004, 04:26 AM
You
believe your own suspicions too easily, including those about the importance of your own chatter. My own suspicions
are that no one much cares that you are talking about this; about whether you are right or wrong about your
self-diagnosis; or about whether or not you use pheromones. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Good
luck.
Elana
05-15-2004, 05:06 AM
mark1 = fran1
koolking1
05-15-2004, 05:18 AM
at
Sue\'s suggestion, I put a dab of AE on the tip of my tongue last night. Much to her delight, I can now lick my
eyebrows amongst other things!!!
Elana
05-15-2004, 05:24 AM
I put PI/w on
just one of my boobs. What a mistake. Now I have one D cup and an E cup.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
koolking1
05-15-2004, 05:43 AM
hmmm
Elana, not so bad really, I could like both of them with my new & improved tongue!
Elana
05-15-2004, 05:47 AM
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hmmm Elana, not so bad really, I could like both of
them with my new & improved tongue!
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OK....this could work. I
never wear a bra so I don\'t have to worry about finding one to fit me.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
DZorro
05-15-2004, 08:51 AM
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I put PI/w on just one of my boobs. What a mistake.
Now I have one D cup and an E cup. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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Just put another drup on your other breats to make them equal
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Then send me a picture
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
DZorro,
DZorro
05-15-2004, 08:53 AM
You still got
my e-mail right ???
DZorro,
DrSmellThis
05-15-2004, 01:22 PM
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mark1 = fran1
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/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Brian
05-17-2004, 08:23 AM
What a riot
this thread is. Elana! You should be ashamed of yourself making fun of this
poor guys affliction! Come over here
woman! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
dping28
05-17-2004, 03:54 PM
If these
pheromones really had that kind of side effect then wouldnt all the females wearing them be noticing this? From what
I gather they use the mens mones about as much as some guys try the womens. So they would notice this side effect.
And just buying and using these would be MUCH cheaper then going the expensive surgury route and would be all about
them. Least thats how I see it.
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