Newbie- Confused!

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Ok, heres the deal, Ive been following the forum for the last few days and I see all the product names and I\'m particularly interested in the concentrates.
I see all these product names, but I read in places that Primal Instict is the most potent, but people on the forum seem to differ. Can someone point me to the best product to buy for my first purchase? AE ? PI ? ?? !!? ??

Thanks in Advance!

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Hey Benji, Im new at this to! Ive done the same thing for a week searching for the best Product. I hope some one will lead us in the right direction!!!!!

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ok, i have posted questions many times and have not been answered! so that\'s why i am going to help you guys. i am newbie too, my package arrived today, i bought the edge and alter ego.

the edge is known to give excellent results because is very concentrated so girls can smell it easy, ae is not as concentrated and maybe can not be smelled so easy by girls but contains other pheromones that are better than the edge. so using this combo you get first attention plus a special effect i guess?.

for what i have read, i think the best products are:
the edge, andro 4.2 and ae(alter ego) but i have heared that alter ego tends to make girls friendly and less passionate, so you might wanna buy another product to use with alter ego.

i have a question for experts:
if i use 1 spray of the edge in my shirt and another one in my hair, plus 2 drops of ae behind my ears and 2 drops of ae on my neck, would that be effective.
(we are talking about 2 sprays of the edge, im not worried about ae)
please don\'t answer with a \"try it out\" or \"start with one spray\", just tell me what u think of the 2 sprays plus the ae.

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Thanks, Tse I just Placed my order. Hope it works like I hear! I will let ever body Know what Happens. I got these Three ladys come from Georgia in a few weeks.WE WILL SEE!!!!!! Thanks again,Charlie

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Hey guys,

Benji, consider yourself lucky to have gotten some responses. Like tse, I also posted a question and got zero responses. Apparently the new guys don\'t get help on this site. Maybe we should just run our own threads here. Anyway, I ordered \"unscented\" PI and PF and attraction a couple of months ago. I haven\'t really noticed anything but I have not really had the chances to experiment much. There are plenty of people that say that you have to give it some time. Based on all of my reading, AE and Edge seem to give the best results and that is what I thought when I placed my order, but I could not imagine spraying something on myself that smelled like cat piss ... no matter how well it works ... disgusting!
\"Unscented\" PI also has a smell. Apparently some can smell it and some can\'t. I can smell it really well even when I cover it with attraction or PF and I think that sometimes I am self concious about the smell. It smells like ... BO may be the best description. Anyway lots of people say that it works really well. To sum it up, based on my reading, PI, PF and Attraction seem to be the best behind AE and Edge.

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Everyone gets helped here.
It\'s just a bit annoying when someone pops into a forum and starts asking the same questions that was answered 200 times before.
Use your head, read the old posts, and then ask for clarification.

THERE IS NO BEST PRODUCT IN PHEROS.
There are just better concentrations and different prices. What is best for you might not be best for me. This has been explained tons of times here before. It depends on your skin, age, amount of natural pheros and many other factors.

Don\'t be brainless cow and start running your mouth off before your INVESTIGATE your newbie questions.
Yes it takes a little bit of initiative and effort.
You can\'t be spoon fed for the rest of your life you know.

OK I got little excited. I\'ll be fine

V.

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i don\'t know why but that didn\'t answer any of my questions. see guys?, see?

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TSE...... Your questions can be answered by going back an looking at the threads previously posted here...many times...You are asking if
\"i have a question for experts:
if i use 1 spray of the edge in my shirt and another one in my hair, plus 2 drops of AE behind my ears and 2 drops of AE on my neck, would that be effective.
(we are talking about 2 sprays of the edge, I’m not worried about AE)
Please don\'t answer with a \"try it out\" or \"start with one spray\", just tell me what u think of the 2 sprays plus the AE. \"
...Well as far as what I think? You answered the question with your question....But look it sounds like a good place to start your experiments with pheros. 4 drops AE and a spray of the edge...good as any place to start. I personally do not use AE...tried it a few times...but I have better results with an AndrØ only or dominant product like the Edge or New Phero concentrate. I spray twice with the Edge...bare chest, and clothed chest neck area. Concentrate one dab behind each ear.

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Verminx,

No, everyone does not get helped here. There are at least two examples on this post alone. By the way, over the last two or three months I have read every post on this new forum and the ones on the old forum when it was still available ... time and time again. I used my head and I asked for clarification and I got no responses. This, after reading posts where people wanted more participation.

It was pretty clear to me in BENJI\'s post that he has done research and needs clarification. He is trying to find a starting point and your answer about skin and age and many other factors does not help when he is trying to figure out where to start. I was at that point recently and when you read post after post after post, it all starts to get a little overwhelming.

However, after my THOROUGH investigation, it SEEMS to me that MORE people are VERY pleased with AE and Edge while SOME are VERY pleased with PI and SOME are VERY pleased with OTHER products. Yes, I owe Benji an apology for using the word \"best\" ... that was a mistake ... however, I did say that was based on my reading.

Verminx, thanks for catching my error and correcting me by getting personal and calling me names. \"Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me\" ttthhhppppppp!

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Thank u all for your replies. I ended up ordering Attraction, PF and PI .. lets give it a shot.

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Good Luck,

If you have some success, I would like to hear what combo worked best and how much you used.

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I apologize if i sounded to rude guys, is cuz i searched the edge and it confuses me cuz some people say 2 sprays is much while other say is ok, that counfused me.

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Ok two points to consider for new users

1. Is it is best to apply pheromone products to cotton and wool products (aka nature fibres) as they last longer and are takin in by these fibres better, also you dont get as effective from say something like polyester shirts etc

2. What was i going to say oh yes new users need to learn what happens when a female is having an interest/attraction - likes you they can be very subtle in thier clues and the more attractive they are the better they are at it, they are usually stuck up anyway and to notice when they get a whiff and are interested takes a lot of detective work, they more often wait until your back is turned and it takes a lot to get to them, but if you go after their friends and just get to be friends with thier friends then at some point you will get to her through association and events it just takes some time, but is well worth the effort and you can experiment and have a bit of fun and be a bit of a socialisoists as you go and learn about human nature which can be very useful in the future

3. And it takes a while it did with me before i hit on the right product for me, it took me two months of using different pheromones before i discovered what was best for me and before i really started to wake up and take notice of what was really happening i really thought at the time it wasnt working but i do stick with something for a bit longer than most people and found out after long enough that it really does work.

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Ok here\'s a success story for all you newbies out there.

I was wearing two sprays of attraction (on my shirt around the area of my sternum) mixed in was 1/2 a bottle of \"new\"Primal instinct - The formula is listed in the form files I was also wearing one drop of vertiver and one drop of ylang under each arm pit - info on e-oils also in form files.

Here\'s the story....
Went to the dentist and had a new dental hygenist doing the cleaning. She was around my age and was HOT!! really nice long legs anyway she was really friendly and very confident. We started off with the reagular old BS talk and during the treatment she was humming away. I looked into her eyes and noticed that her pupils were dialated to the max so I new that the pheromones were working ( it was bright in the office so they should of been contracted - Pupils)

when I went back to work she called me asking If I was feeling Ok and if I have any mouth pain to give her a call right away and she would check my mouth free of charge. She also told me that she would be at a certain club this Friday and if I was going to be at that club I had to stop by and have a dance with her.

Now this has never happened, esp from a dental hygenist who must of broke ethical rules I am pretty sure that a professional can\'t phone a patient and ask them if they are going to a bar on friday nite?

However I do have a girl friend that I am very happy with so I am not going to pursue it, I also don\'t go to that bar she was talking about going to....

So I definately consider this a \"HIT\"

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Hey All, I just try two of three product\'s that I just got today from Bruce,an let me tell you!!! (The APC WORK GREAT) One drop behind each ear will drive them crazy.I first try The Edge, One spray on my shirt, just to see if it works.I have two women that does my lawn an they always give me a hug,so I spray one shot of (The Edge) an went outside to get my hug an no effect. So put (APC) on an they when crazy!One more to try (PA.)I LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL & ESPECIALLY BRUCE for geting my order to me fedx.P.S. Which one of the PI is best ylang or orignal.Charlie

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Hello,
I read most of this for the first time just now. It reminded me of when I was first got interested in html and joined an e-mail forum on the subject. I was all excited and posted a message asking a bunch of newbie type questions. Well, I got a response alright, but everybody came down on me like a ton of bricks for not reading the faq. Fortunately, that is not likely to happen here unless you provoke somebody. Experienced users for the most part are willing to help newbies with some basics, but they come here looking for answers to their own (more advanced) questions/problems too, so they have to divide their time. Also, honest to God, it is VERY difficult to get started writing a response to \"which one is best.\" A combo of Edge and Alter Ego contain all the attractive pheromones currently in commercial production, but a newbie will often send Edge back complaining it smells like piss, so even tho maybe that combo is \"best\" for them (just maybe), until they get used to wielding such a potent weapon they don\'t trust it. (Edge oftenneeds to be used in very small amounts and with a good bit of cologne, BTW). Furthermore, the individual\'s natural pheromone make up must be taken into account in order to know which product(s) is/are best, and at present there is nowhere you can go to get your natural pheromone output tested, so you just have to experiment for a while until you find out what works. Someday that will all change no doubt, but for the moment, that is where the technology stands. We are admitedly in the pheromone stone age. I wish I had some better news, but dems da facts! Take a look at the other pheromone sites, and every one of them will be screaming at you: \"This is it! This is the one you have been waiting for! This is the most powerful product on the market!\" Guess what? That is a heap of cow dung. It is just not true. There is no magic single product that works miracles for everybody. What you see here on this forum is the reality of the matter. You have to experiment around until your find your own magic numbers that fill in the holes in your own natural pheromone rainbow, and create an aura that is believable to others in conjunction with your style (personality, clothes etc). It will just plain feel \"right\" to you too. You will feel it yourself before you even leave the house.
Hope that helps at least a little.
All the Best,
Bruce

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AE is actually more concentrated than the Edge. AE contains over 0.040 % - almost as much as PI. The edge is more on the order of 0.012 %. However, the oil base on AE makes it diffuse less over time than the Edge. To put this in perspective, Realm and APC are said to have 0.005% Realm is alcohol based and APC is oil based. Attraction is around 0.030% and alcohol based. PPA is 0.014% oil based, Andro is 0.014%. The others don\'t have published contents.

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Paul, you\'re my hero. My APC should be here soon. I wanna be a hip cool phero dude like yourself. Got the females checking you out. The ladies are breaking rules and regualtions to get to you, even still you\'re faithful to one chick. You\'re the man.

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there is definetely some luck with the Pauls these days, I should rename myself to Paul Mexico.

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Thanks Atomicboy:

I got phermones for use in the workplace... But I got a negative story to tell about phermones and it happened just about 10mins ago.(Thats why I\'m writing this at 2pm from home)

First let me tell you what I was wearing 2drops of new PI behind each ear and two sprays of attraction on my shirt. had one drop of ylang and vertiver in each arm pit and one drop of anise on my stomach.

Anyway my co-worker who is a pretty laid back woman and is very friendly esp when I wear pheromones snapped at me over something stupid of course and was kind of mean so when she went to talk to a client I picked up my stuff and left the office. Now your probable saying whats so weird about that? well in the three years I have known her she has never said anything like that (no Point in getting into the details of the arguement)

I was one of the very few that thought you could not overdose on pheromones but I think that I might have over done it. Ok your probable thinking \"are you sure its the pheromones?\" No, I cant say for sure but its the only thing that was done differently in my daily routine.

So now I have to wait and see whats going to happen next I\'m sure i\'ll be getting a phone call in the next hour or so.

paul

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Ok she called and didn\'t mention anything about what happened, So did I OD? your guess is as good as mine..
I think some more experimenting is in order.
This is what Bruce always says: Keep trying!! so I guess i\'ll be using 2 drops of new PI behind each ear and two sprays of attraction on my shirt and see if I get any other negative remarks, who know I may get some positive results?


Paul

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I wanted to thank everyone for chipping in the extra information on this post. It was very helpful and has really helped to make me feel a little more welcome here. A special thanks to Bruce for great service and the advice about how you will feel it before you leave the house when you have the right mix.

Even though poeple have warned about overdosing, I think that I might try that because at least you seem to get positive feedback when you have gone over the top!

Thanks again.

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er ... um I mean negative feedback.