View Full Version : David DeAngelo
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 08:59 AM
I am a big fan
of David DeAngelo, I often get his Newsletters everyweek. One of the things that he always/strongly advocates is to
not act like a \"WUSSY\" in front of women or when talking to them. This means to tease her and make fun of her as
much as possible with a sense of humor by projecting the image of an \"Alpha\" male. My question is regarding
Mones and his theories of attraction. Let\'s say I am acting like a Wussy, meaning acting nice and such, but I am
wearing mones like NONE, would this mean women will see me as an Alpha male oppose to a wussy? If the answer is YES,
then wouldn\'t this contradict most of his theories of attraction when one is wearing
mones?
-----------------------------------------------------------
Please excuse my grammar, English is not my
first language.
No, wouldn\'t contradict anything about the pheromone theories. The theory is mones are the primary biological
link to sexuality.
After that, behavior and impressions are determined by not only biology, but other social
related crap, and such.
As for if you were wearing none and you were acting like a wuss, would you still be
considered a wuss? Probably, but you\'d have more margin for error, and if the woman was particuarly effected -
some are due to previous condition or their cycle or other stuff - then she might not think you are a wuss. Kinda
like if women are into you, you don\'t have to be funny to make them laugh at your jokes.
But anyway, your
behavior can cancel out the IMPRESSION that pheromones offer. If you go up to a sweet looking girl and she acts
like a b-tch, are you going to forever think she is so sweet?
koolking1
05-05-2004, 09:23 AM
Your English is good!!! I would think that it would be sending conflicting/confusing signals to women
if you wear .none and act like a wuss. Why do that anyways? It would seem that if you wore the mones and used
DeAngelo\'s techniques you would have a double advantage in your quest for female company.
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Your English is good!!!
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Thanks, man. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 09:29 AM
Alright, Thanks for clearing that up. I was just sort of confused, but what you are saying does make
sense. So with mones you can increase your chances if you are acting like an Alpha male right? And if I am acting
nice, wussy like and the mones are working correctly, she will still be attracted to me?
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 09:32 AM
You guys are funny and Thank you both.
Holmes
05-05-2004, 09:33 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I would think that it would be sending
conflicting/confusing signals to women if you wear .none and act like a wuss.
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
Indeed.
Holmes
Holmes
05-05-2004, 09:35 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
And if I am acting nice, wussy like and the mones
are working correctly, she will still be attracted to me?
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Until
she gets to know you.
Holmes
ironration
05-05-2004, 09:40 AM
DeAngelos concept of cocky and funny and not supplicating to women is the single most effective way of
attracting women I have seen in real life.
I have seen ugly guys at clubs that are naturally cocky and funny, and
never would supplicate to a women (i.e. buying her drinks or seeking approval) go home with the best looking girls
in the club.
Basically what David DeAngelo teaches is just what guys that are naturally good with women already
do.
Getting attraction from mones is of no use if you are a wussy and start supplicating to the girl.
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 10:23 AM
I really wish I had the CD or DVD series, I know is worth the $200.00, but I am running short on money
right now. The thing that is so hard to most guys is how to be cocky/funny all time. Most guys will would eventually
act like a wussy even when they understand the concepts. It takes alot of practice to delevople this whole package.
Some guys are lucky because they are \"naturals\" on this, even though most don\'t know what they are doing. I
am trying hard to fit this profile, like mones is a perfect balance you must have. I was always the saint like guy
in high school : /
WHy not try 2 drops of PI with 2-3 dabs of WAGG. For me it works like a transforming agent. DOn\'t know much about
being funny, but I become confident and cocky and never supplicate to chicks. Though AE also contains healthy dose
of non, it doesn\'t produce the same trick as PI does. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 10:40 AM
Anyone in the US, has the Advance series that they would lent me?
ironration
05-05-2004, 10:43 AM
I also struggle with it since my natural type of humour is not cocky and funny.
But even if you
do not get cocky and funny there is lots of good information in the Advanced series.
If you want a completely
free way of getting better with women practising approaching them. I have done 165 approaches in the last 2 months.
When I started out I was so afraid of talking to a good-looking women in a club I almost fell ill.
But
by doing it again and again it is becoming more and more natural. Now, I have reached the point that I can talk to
the best looking girl in a club without feeling nervous at all.
That does not mean that I have reached the
point that I necessary get a good reaction, even thought I got my first phonenumber last Friday. But I have reached
the point of not caring about the outcome.
So what if you get rejected by 10.000 women. It does not really
mean anything at all. There are still at least 50.000.000 really good looking women left. Each time you get shut
down you get experience that will increase your skill level in the long run.
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 10:59 AM
Thank you so much ironration for your advice and congratulation on your first phonenumber. I agree
practice is the key and mirroring other Alpha males. My problem is similar to yours, but I am not really afraid of
good looking gals I just don\'t like to play head games and get them attention. Unfortunately you must PLAY the
game to be successful with women. I am just not the person to use pick-up lines, I am straight to the point. Thanks
to DeAngelo I am starting to get the whole idea of attraction, it will just take me awhile to adapt to this
cocky/funny mode. I practice online too.
ironration
05-05-2004, 11:12 AM
But you are not really playing head games when you flirt with women. You just have fun with them and
talk to them in a way that is fun for them as well.
Bying drinks or flowers to women you barely know is much more
manipulative in my opinion.
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 11:15 AM
Yes, you do have a point it it just seems like head games to the average joe.
koolking1
05-05-2004, 01:46 PM
Hi Shadow, Sometime long ago I visited DeAngelo\'s website and got signed up for his newsletters,
they are free. My girlfriend reads them all the time and says \"I don\'t like what he has to say but he\'s
absolutely right\"!!!! So, you can get lots of tips for free if you subscribe.
dping28
05-05-2004, 01:55 PM
I have David DeAngelo\'s ebook, Advanced DVD Series, and his Interviews with Dating Guru\'s. I am far from
actually approaching women but thanks to his excellant teachings I completely get what he means. Its just a matter
off overcoming my own fears and doing it. His stuff has helped me slowly overcome my social anxiety disorder with
out medicine. I would highly recomend his stuff to anyone.
tounge
05-05-2004, 02:03 PM
Ironation is right. Get out ther and practice talking to the other sex. You will get better. If you don\'t have
the balls, you don\'t deserve it. Getting hooked with chicks is just a matter of developing some social skills
through practice and then it becomes a numbers game.The hard part is when you become irresistible to them (like
myself) it\'s hard to get rid of them.The bottom line is \"FAINT HEART NEVER WON FAIR LADY\"
Unknownshadown20
05-05-2004, 02:22 PM
Yes, I am subscribe to his Newsletters, I just wish someone could lent me the Advance Series :/
koolking1
05-05-2004, 02:24 PM
look on eBay, perhaps someone has a copy up for sale cheap.
bigdog
05-05-2004, 02:40 PM
Is DeAngelo clearly the best? Perhaps there are reputable females out there that are better?
ironration
05-05-2004, 03:02 PM
The best pick up artist in the world is probably a guy named Mystery. David DeAngelo is till very
good though and he is that one that explain pick up the best to average people who don’t have massive time to devote
to the game.
If you want to be really good it probably best to take a live workshop from guys like Mystery, Tyler
Durden or Papa. Basically they are so good that female 10s get nervous around them.
The best free site to read up
on background info
is:
http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew/ (\"http://www.fastseduction.com/youarenew/\")
Just skip
everything that has to with patterns. Patterns and the things that Ross Jeffries teaches do work, but it generally
considered outdated and of limited use by current top Pick Up Artist.
Still, the most important thing in order to
get good is just to talk to as many women you can and avoid supplicating.
</font><blockquote><font
class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Is DeAngelo clearly the best? Perhaps there are reputable females out there
that are better?
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
Sagacious1420
05-05-2004, 05:01 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
....if the woman was particuarly
effected - some are due to previous condition or their cycle or other stuff - then she might not think you are a
wuss....But anyway, your behavior can cancel out the IMPRESSION that pheromones offer.
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">So you\'re basically saying that if she were effected by the mones then she might not think
you\'re a wuss, but then you say that your behavior would cancel her impression caused by the mones.?.?
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif So which is
it? Please clarify.
Holmes
05-05-2004, 05:17 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
But anyway, your behavior can cancel out the
IMPRESSION that pheromones offer.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
In a heartbeat.
Holmes
Sorry buddy, I am not doing this again.
Holmes
05-05-2004, 05:32 PM
The Gene $immons Dating Manual is the best out there. I keep it in the powder room, next to my KI$$ Pay
Toilet.
Holmes
bigdog
05-05-2004, 05:34 PM
I think Wilt\'s book would better. Heck if I were a member of KI$$ I could perhaps get as much as Gene. But
Wilt?
Ok I forget about his shoe size...
Elana
05-05-2004, 05:36 PM
Wilt is not getting ANYTHING /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Difference
05-05-2004, 05:39 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Is DeAngelo clearly the best? Perhaps
there are reputable females out there that are better?
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I think
Archer Sloan\'s stuff is killer. His Demonic Confidence product is really the best purchase I\'ve made in all
my dating life. I couldn\'t recommend it enough. And the David DeAngelo cocky/funny stuff actually came up on
his newsgroup a while back.
He even has some pheromones he\'s beta-testing that I\'ve gotten some very
interesting results with.
His stuff is very male-oriented. But an ex-girlfriend of mine read my copy of \"how
to get your girlfriend to love doing threesomes\" and she thought, even though it was really \"boys being boys,\"
it had some amazing ideas in it.
I\'d recommend almost anything by him.
Dave
Elana
05-05-2004, 05:41 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
But an ex-girlfriend of mine read my copy of
\"how to get your girlfriend to love doing threesomes\"
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
You
gotta be kidding?! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
You guys.........whoa........speechless
bigdog
05-05-2004, 05:44 PM
Sounds like this Arthur Sloan would even scare Gene Simmons away.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Holmes
05-05-2004, 05:45 PM
Speak of the devil. I was just mentioning Archer to a couple people earlier on.
Holmes
Elana
05-05-2004, 05:46 PM
A couple of you guys must go after women with oatmeal for brains. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Holmes
05-05-2004, 05:48 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Sounds like this Arthur Sloan would even scare Gene
Simmons away. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
They should jam.
Holmes
bigdog
05-05-2004, 05:51 PM
In comparison it seems like DeAngelo has the Michael Bolton approach (not office space).
Elana
05-05-2004, 05:52 PM
That\'s it.....I need to write a book /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Elana
05-05-2004, 05:53 PM
\"Get women to throw money at you as they give you oral sex and cook you a large steak dinner\"
By
Elana
$19.95 on Amazon
bigdog
05-05-2004, 05:56 PM
Ok Elana I maybe would buy. That is if she also stop at nothing to get me Super Bowl tickets for free and gets them
successfully. I\'ll even pay an extra dollar for your book!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Holmes
05-05-2004, 06:03 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
\"Get women to throw money at you as they give you
oral sex and cook you a large steak dinner\"
By Elana
$19.95 on Amazon
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Holmes
Elana
05-05-2004, 06:03 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Ok Elana I maybe would buy. That is if she also
stop at nothing to get me Super Bowl tickets for free and gets them successfully. I\'ll even pay an extra dollar
for your book!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font
class=\"post\">
Yes, she will be your sex slave as well as your maid. What is so amazing about this is, you
just have to read my book for $29.95 at Amazon and it will all just start happening for you. It really is fantastic.
For those of you that don\'t care for red meat, I have another book coming out soon called \"How to get a woman
to have her teeth permanently removed so she can give you fantastic head without having to worry about her scraping
you, and when she is finished she will cook you up a lobster dinner with all the fixings and give you Superbowl
tickets\". $39.95 at Amazon
InternationalPlayboy
05-05-2004, 06:03 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
\"Get women to throw
money at you as they give you oral sex and cook you a large steak dinner\"
By Elana
$19.95 on Amazon
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I Call
that True Love (\"http://www.drhook.inuk.com/lyrics/icallthattruelove.htm\") /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
koolking1
05-05-2004, 06:04 PM
women, oatmeal - hmmmm sounds like a nice breakfast. Although I have never purchased any \"how to
pickup women\" books I kinda like this DeAngelo guy as he really has spent a lot of time studying psychology and
actually knows how to use it. I don\'t think I\'d want to take the time to memorize patterns of speech although
I believe they do work - one joke comes to mind and I know it works as I\'ve used it a few times to great effect -
the Voodoo Dildo Joke is a classic, no woman on earth would not get hot hearing that one and it was written for that
express purpose. Alas, I\'m not in the dating game and only would use those techniques in a \"swinging\"
situation when the other woman is not really yet into it and is on the \"fencepost\". I did buy a book about 5
years ago and it may be the one mentioned - about how to get your wife/girlfriend to go for a 3-some with another
woman. Basically, it boils down to attempting to do it with another woman who is already a close friend of your
woman - perhaps useful to some but not for me, good idea but impractical at my age as Sue\'s friends tend to be
work associates - would that go over well, laughing here, yea right, all we need is a job loss!!!
Elana
05-05-2004, 06:09 PM
If any of you guys read that threesome book and want to give it a try on me, just do me a favor and make sure the
other guy you bring is hot. I prefer dark haired men, but as long as he is hot, and I have had a few drinks in
me...who knows what could happen. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Difference
05-05-2004, 06:16 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
If any of you guys read that threesome
book and want to give it a try on me, just do me a favor and make sure the other guy you bring is hot. I prefer dark
haired men, but as long as he is hot, and I have had a few drinks in me...who knows what could happen.
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
My ex said she
would use the stuff on me to get me in bed with another guy. I told her since she indulged in my desires, it would
only be fair to indulge in hers. She didn\'t have to use the techniques on me.
Or maybe she did and I
didn\'t realize it.
Dave
Elana
05-05-2004, 06:17 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
My ex said she would use the stuff on me to get me
in bed with another guy.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
That\'s more like it. The oatmeal
comment would not apply to her. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Difference
05-05-2004, 06:22 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
I did buy a book about 5 years ago and
it may be the one mentioned - about how to get your wife/girlfriend to go for a 3-some with another woman.
Basically, it boils down to attempting to do it with another woman who is already a close friend of your woman -
perhaps useful to some but not for me, good idea but impractical at my age as Sue\'s friends tend to be work
associates - would that go over well, laughing here, yea right, all we need is a job loss!!!
<hr
/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I don\'t think it\'s the same book. This one goes into details on
progressively conditioning someone to change their outlook on what gives them pleasure. It doesn\'t have to be
about threesomes, and I don\'t remember it talking about what types of girls to pick up, or where.
Dave
bigdog
05-05-2004, 06:33 PM
Regarding DeAngelo I\'m surprised. He emphasizes being very truthful & honest. Not too mislead the person you
are getting to know. I\'m guessingthat isn\'t part of the Demonic Guy\'s repertoire.
koolking1
05-05-2004, 06:38 PM
ah I was thinking it might be a different book and you have reinforced it. I would be willing to
share my technique for having a FFM 3-some for anyone who would like to know. It is my favorite and damn near only
fantasy. I had had two of them when I was much younger, late teens-early twenties and both times were in Europe when
I was stationed in Italy (none of the 4 women were Italian, all were Dutch, yep - both times 2 Dutch lovelies and
myself!!!) But then I hit a 27 year dry-spell, married to a very sexually conventional woman for 23 years and 3-4
years of very miserable dating games. If there\'s any interest in this technique (takes time, patience, some luck
initially) I\'ll post it tomorrow (had a J a bit ago and don\'t want to spend the next hour typing or I\'d do
it now)
koolking1
05-05-2004, 06:41 PM
oh, and guys, don\'t let any woman mislead you - no matter her protestations, deep down she\'d love
to have a MMF 3-some!!!
Difference
05-05-2004, 06:43 PM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Regarding DeAngelo I\'m surprised. He
emphasizes being very truthful & honest. Not too mislead the person you are getting to know. I\'m guessingthat
isn\'t part of the Demonic Guy\'s repertoire.
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
His work
seems pretty honest to me; doesn\'t talk about lying or misleading anyone, and I\'ve never tricked anyone into
doing anything she didn\'t want to do.
Dave
real_wiseman
05-10-2004, 02:26 AM
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Anyone in the US, has the Advance
series that they would lent me?
<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">
I have looked at the Kazaaa
network and haven\'t found it.
I *did* find his e-book \"Double Your Dating* though...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.2 Copyright © 2024 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.