Needed advice for using AE/m [Archive] - Love-Scent Pheromones Forum

keglius

05-03-2004, 03:31 AM

Hi!
I\'m kind a newbie in this pheromone thing, but I have read a lot here since the last november. I\'m also

a strong believer in pheromones. So, last week I have bought a bottle of AE/m and started testing. I was trying from

1 to 5 drops... There were no results. There were NO REACTIONS at all

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif No good or bad ones. Nothing out of the ordinary. The only

thing I\'ve noticed is that if I put 4 and more drops of it,AE\'s smell starts to irritate me. However, when

I\'m smelling AE, I cannot smell anything except the fragrance oil. No such things like cat piss smell or anything

unusual.

So, I\'m really confused and I don\'t know what to do. Should I still try upping the dose? Can you

suggest anything what should I do ? Maybe I\'m the exception and pheromones don\'t work for me ?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Could you suggest other mones to try ?

Alright, here\'s

some info about me. I\'m almost 18 years old, European, blond haired, muscular guy. My height is 6\'2 (187 cm).

I\'m very outgoing, social and friendly guy. However, I guess I\'m not an alpha male type.

So, looking for

your advice.
Thank you!

bjf

05-03-2004, 05:25 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Hi!
I\'m kind a newbie in this pheromone thing,

but I have read a lot here since the last november. I\'m also a strong believer in pheromones. So, last week I

have bought a bottle of AE/m and started testing. I was trying from 1 to 5 drops... There were no results. There

were NO REACTIONS at all /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif No good or bad ones. Nothing out of

the ordinary. The only thing I\'ve noticed is that if I put 4 and more drops of it,AE\'s smell starts to

irritate me. However, when I\'m smelling AE, I cannot smell anything except the fragrance oil. No such things like

cat piss smell or anything unusual.

So, I\'m really confused and I don\'t know what to do. Should I still try

upping the dose? Can you suggest anything what should I do ? Maybe I\'m the exception and pheromones don\'t work

for me ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Could you suggest other mones to try ?

Alright,

here\'s some info about me. I\'m almost 18 years old, European, blond haired, muscular guy. My height is 6\'2

(187 cm). I\'m very outgoing, social and friendly guy. However, I guess I\'m not an alpha male type.

So,

looking for your advice.
Thank you!

<hr /></blockquote>

For the most part, AE\\m

never worked for me. That was until I used it at no more than a drop and in conjunction with a healthy amount of

SOE and a drop of wagg.

Also, one drop of AE and two dabs of wagg worked well too.

You can try those things if

you have wagg and soe, or you could just use a few droppers-full of AE.

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Max

05-03-2004, 06:49 AM

AE worked

best for me at 3 drops range. Especially with like 2 dabs of WAGG. AE alone worked okay, but people sort of seemed

nervous around me a little bit. With WAGG, however, things really loosened up quite a bit.

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But these days, I use WKM#1 on a daily basis. Well, no

significant hits so far, but the PI buzz is definitely something I like about the mix.

bigdog

05-03-2004, 07:33 AM

I agree

Max. I for a while failed to use WAGG when out. Now I must use in conjunction with none. SOE probably works as well

but I don\'t think WAGG/SOE a good combo. It seems no matter which none product I use with WAGG I seem to get more

favorable, unsolicited hits (such as obvious touches) than usual. I also get unexpected compliments and respect from

guys.

After this weekend it\'s definitely obvious to me the higher none gets the attention of late

20\'s-40 women. Whereas younger are more prone to respond to lesser none IMO. WAGG or SOE essential for both it

seems. Looking forward to getting Chikara in the next day or 2 and testing it during the day by itself.

Ian_C

05-03-2004, 08:27 AM

My AE/m

results have been somewhat erratic, although I did have great results with it the other night.

I was going out

with my brother and his friends so I applied a drop spread between the back of ears, one under nose, one split

between armpits, and a drop rubbed into the back of my hair.

Effects were subtle to begin with; just things

like other guys paying me a bit more respect, I stood aside to let some huge, shaven-headed guy through but he

backed off and let me go first, even had his head bowed as I walked past - pretty surreal. As the night drew on I

had various interested looks from ladies and my brother\'s friends kept putting their arms around my shoulders in

a kind of \'toast of the town\' way, plus any jokes I made seem to go down so well that I sometimes feared the

others were being sarcastic with their laughter.

Effects with women really do vary, I had the opportunity to

observe two extremes that night. Two girls my brother knew had come out with us, which meant they had been exposed

to the AE for a couple of hours ( I find this stuff has a real culmulative effect ), one was friendly but a little

nervous, she wasn\'t keeping her distance but seemed quite shy ( then again she could just be that way anyway )

whereas the other one, who I\'ve met before and not detected a hint of interest with, looked as though she wanted

to eat me up ( has a boyfriend though, unfortunatly ).

So there was no movement there, a lot of other girls

looked interested but I was having just too much fun socialising with this smaller circle of people ( such a nice

feeling to know the opportunity is there, but you don\'t want it ). When we were leaving the club the girl with

the BF just looped her arm through mine and kept smiling over at me, it was a real boost.

So experiment with

dosage but also be aware that ( in my experience, anyway ) this stuff can take time to work, you may have to be

around someone a while before you notice any effects, plus with me it really kicks in after about four-five hours (

the usually agreed time is three-four hours, I think ).

bigdog

05-03-2004, 08:54 AM

AE is a

great product to use due to balance of none, nol, rone. But each mone product can have positive effects on many but

perhaps 1 out of 10 or more may not produce the the desired effects. Shyness, irritability, standoff behavior, and

at worst anger can result. To get better results with a wider range I recommend having SOE or WAGG in the arsenal

to use when wearing alot of none.

Joseph

05-03-2004, 08:00 PM

AE can

be a highly effective product when used correctly,
and one bottle can last up to a year.

It has been my

experience, going by the most overt hits I\'ve
received, that AE is most effective when two or three drops
(no

more!) are spread over a large area, such as the arms or
neck, or shoulders (if exposed), and immediately put into

action.

It is tempting to put more on, because you can hardly smell the
fragrance, and after a half hour,

can\'t tell it is on you, but
don\'t. All my attempts to draw it out over six hours, or wear
it under my

shirt have been undue. Any concentration above three
drops simply makes you irritable/nervous, or repels others.

AE is a short duration product. This results in a less concentrated
broadcast (reducing the chances of a

strong \"whiff\") while being
easier to detect. Realm (pheromone cologne) has also been an
excellent

complement to AE.

A rule of thumb with AE is If you can smell the full fragrance
on you, you are using too

much.

Joseph

bigdog

05-03-2004, 08:07 PM

I agree

Joseph. I\'ve made the mistake of adding more after an initial mone application earlier. That goes for TE &

NPa too. Not a good idea to add later. Keep what you have on at a steady 2-3, no more than 4 drops.

keglius

05-04-2004, 03:11 AM

Hey,

thanks for your advice... I guess AE/m doesn\'t work for me. I have tried today about 4 drops spread between ears,

armpits, under nose and in my hair. No reactions... Yesterday I used 2 drops. No reactions. I think I\'ll have to

save some money and buy SOE or WAGG.

ironration

05-04-2004, 04:42 AM

Do

not forget to return your product. If the product do not work for you, you have a money back gurantee.

keglius

05-04-2004, 05:54 AM

What

do you think... If AE/m doesn\'t work for me, than maybe other pheros won\'t work for me too? Maybe I\'m the

person who cannot wear mones ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

bjf

05-04-2004, 06:10 AM

get npa

DrSmellThis

05-04-2004, 09:52 AM

Attention newbies: You cannot accurately judge whether pheromones will work for you after a couple applications. It

takes a while to determine which products, how to use them, and to let the law of averages work.

Sagacious1420

05-04-2004, 05:14 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Attention newbies: You cannot accurately judge

whether pheromones will work for you after a couple applications. It takes a while to determine which products, how

to use them, and to let the law of averages work.

<hr /></blockquote>Agreed Doc. One

week typically isn\'t enough time to draw a final conclusion about whether a product is working for you. Stick w/

one specific dose (e.g. 3 drops) for a week or two and use it in a variety of environments/situations before you try

a different dosage. It could be that ppl are responding, but you haven\'t yet figured out how to recognize them.

It\'s been my experience that AE/m solo elicits rather subtle reactions in most ppl, they tend to be rather

submissive so that may at 1st appear to be no reaction at all. You may be more likely to notice reactions from ppl

you don\'t know, as opposed to those whom you do know already.

keglius

05-05-2004, 08:45 AM

I have

tried today 9 dabs of AE/m. I still got no reactions. I will try tomorrow 15 dabs split between armpits, chest,

ears, neck, hair.

DrSmellThis

05-05-2004, 10:24 AM

15

dabs??

Max

05-05-2004, 10:29 AM

OHHHHHHH, easy, mate. That\'s some outlandish dosage. Know you\'re desperate,but that\'s just out of order.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Why not put a drop on your upper lip and see if it does anything

to change your mood in any way. If it does, it is good. If not, there could be something wrong. You then can decide

what to do with it.

CptKipling

05-05-2004, 01:27 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I have tried today 9 dabs of AE/m. I still got no

reactions. I will try tomorrow 15 dabs split between armpits, chest, ears, neck, hair.

<hr

/></blockquote>

How about trying a sensible dosage for a week or two? Bigger applications

do not always mean bigger reactions.

DrSmellThis

05-05-2004, 01:34 PM

This man knows what he is talking about. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

dping28

05-05-2004, 01:58 PM

Man

15dabs!? I use max 4-5 drops and I can get easilly pissed off. 15dabs someones liable to kill someone lol.

CptKipling

05-05-2004, 02:00 PM

Thanks Docta /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

bjf

05-05-2004, 02:01 PM

Actually,

since 3 or 4 dabs is supposed to equal a drop, then 15 dabs is only 4-5 drops.

The AE droppers is smaller, but

so is the mouth of the bottle.

dping28

05-05-2004, 02:09 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Actually, since 3 or 4 dabs is supposed to equal a

drop, then 15 dabs is only 4-5 drops.

The AE droppers is smaller, but so is the mouth of the bottle.

<hr /></blockquote>

Hmm I must be using very small drops then. Id think a dab would

be alot more then a drop. for me a drop I just squeeze it gently til I get a single drop to fall out on my finger.

bjf

05-05-2004, 02:11 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Actually, since 3 or 4 dabs is supposed to equal a drop, then 15 dabs is only

4-5 drops.

The AE droppers is smaller, but so is the mouth of the bottle.

<hr /></blockquote>

Hmm I must be using very small drops then. Id think a dab would be alot more then a drop. for

me a drop I just squeeze it gently til I get a single drop to fall out on my finger.

<hr /></blockquote>]

A dab from what bottle compared to a drop from what dropper?

dping28

05-05-2004, 02:14 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

A dab from what bottle compared to a drop from

what dropper?

<hr /></blockquote>
From the AE/m bottle to both. ive never dabed the AE

bottle. im just going on looking at the size of the mouth and the size of the drops i use.

bjf

05-05-2004, 02:16 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

A dab from what bottle compared to a drop from what dropper?

<hr

/></blockquote>
From the AE/m bottle to both. ive never dabed the AE bottle. im just going

on looking at the size of the mouth and the size of the drops i use.

<hr /></blockquote>

First you say AE for both (dabbing and dropped). Then you say you have never dabbed from AE

bottle. Please clarify.

dping28

05-05-2004, 02:20 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

First you say AE for both (dabbing and dropped).

Then you say you have never dabbed from AE bottle. Please clarify.

<hr /></blockquote>

All I was saying, looking at the size of drops I use, I would think a dab would be bigger. Ive

never dabed but the size of the bottles mouth is much wider then the size of the drops I get on my finger. So to me

it would almost seem like 1 dab would be like 2 maybe 3 of my drops. I may be usingreally small drops I dont know.

bjf

05-05-2004, 02:24 PM

AE

droppers is said to be 1/3 of a drop from a regular drop, though I have found it to be 1/2 using vodka. THe

viscosity changes things though. Regardless, the AE dropper gives relatively small drops. However, they shoudl be

bigger than a dab. Since you haven\'t dabbed, you probably don\'t know how much comes out. While the area it

covers may be great (at least before the drop spreads out), the height is not as great.

In other words, a dab is

less than a drop.

dping28

05-05-2004, 02:27 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
AE droppers is said to be 1/3 of a drop from a

regular drop, though I have found it to be 1/2 using vodka. THe viscosity changes things though. Regardless, the

AE dropper gives relatively small drops. However, they shoudl be bigger than a dab. Since you haven\'t dabbed,

you probably don\'t know how much comes out. While the area it covers may be great (at least before the drop

spreads out), the height is not as great.

In other words, a dab is less than a drop.

<hr

/></blockquote>

Cool, Next time I go out I will do dabs instead of the dropper and see..

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Sagacious1420

05-05-2004, 04:43 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
I have tried today 9 dabs of AE/m. I still got no reactions. I will try

tomorrow 15 dabs split between armpits, chest, ears, neck, hair.

<hr /></blockquote>

How about trying a sensible dosage for a week or two?

<hr /></blockquote>

Didn\'t I just say that? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sagacious1420

05-05-2004, 04:46 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

A dab from

what bottle compared to a drop from what dropper?

<hr /></blockquote>
From the AE/m

bottle to both. ive never dabed the AE bottle. im just going on looking at the size of the mouth and the size of the

drops i use.

<hr /></blockquote>

First you say AE for both (dabbing and dropped).

Then you say you have never dabbed from AE bottle. Please clarify.

<hr /></blockquote>

BJF-

So you have tried both drops and dabs from the AE bottle? Please clarify.

bjf

05-05-2004, 05:03 PM

I

haven\'t done dabs from AE bottle. The only reason why I asked him where he was doing the dabs from and where he

was doing the drops from was because he thought the dabs were bigger than the drops.

So I thought maybe he was

comparing a dab from a bottle with a wider mouth, ie TE, compared to a drop from the small AE dropper.

Are AE

dabs bigger than AE drops or something? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

keglius

05-06-2004, 03:56 AM

Here\'s the report for today /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have used 15 dabs today... I have

split those dabs between ears, neck, back, chest, hair, on upper lip, armpits. And

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif There were NO reactions as always

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I haven\'t noticed any strange things, my both male and female

friends were amicable as always. I haven\'t received any compliments about \"nice smell\" or something like

that. So, nothing to report. I haven\'t noticed any strange looks. Those 15 dabs haven\'t changed my mood. It

was like a normal day without pheros. Tomorrow I\'ll try one drop on my lip... But I think that there will be no

results as always.

DCW

05-06-2004, 08:39 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
. Tomorrow I\'ll try one drop on my lip... But I

think that there will be no results as always.

<hr /></blockquote>

Why do u think

that putting the stuff on you lip /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif would make a difference. Have u

tried making small talk with the ladies?

DCW

keglius

05-06-2004, 08:46 AM

One of

this phero forum mate suggested to try that and see... I don\'t have anything to loose, so I will try. I have

tried to talk to girls, but no strange or any kind reactions from them. All days are like those without pheromones.

Max

05-06-2004, 12:06 PM

the reason

I siad that was that if it doesn\'t do nothing for you, then it won\'t do jacks**t for the ladies. By putting a

drop on your upper lip, you\'d at least know whether it does anything for YOU. Well, get a refund, if not.

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DCW

05-06-2004, 12:51 PM

Don\'t

do anything silly or the only female reaction you\'ll get will be in the hospital ward from middle age

nurses.

Just a suggestion.

DCW

Helsinki

05-06-2004, 01:10 PM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Don\'t do anything silly or the only female

reaction you\'ll get will be in the hospital ward from middle age nurses.

Just a suggestion.

DCW

<hr

/></blockquote>

Sweet, sweet middle age nurses.... J/k.

keglius

05-07-2004, 03:08 AM

Report

for today. I\'ve put one drop of AE/m on my upper lip. It didn\'t change my mood today:) No reactions as well.

So, I\'m now for sure that AE doesn\'t work for me. But I still don\'t know why... Am I different from most of

you or something like that?

Max

05-07-2004, 03:16 AM

It seems

that way then, how much ever it sounds unlikely. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Well, why not

return AE and get something else?

dping28

05-07-2004, 07:11 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Report for today. I\'ve put one drop of AE/m on

my upper lip. It didn\'t change my mood today:) No reactions as well. So, I\'m now for sure that AE doesn\'t

work for me. But I still don\'t know why... Am I different from most of you or something like that?

<hr

/></blockquote>

When I put AE on my lip I normally wouldnt feel anything different until

someone did something to annoy or piss me off then my mood amplifys big time. My roommate can even see the

difference in me with and without.

zeu2003

05-07-2004, 07:18 AM

Keglius;
did you try using less AE?
Try using one dab behind each ear, and 2 on the neck(one dab on each side)

and see what happens..

DrSmellThis

05-07-2004, 09:23 AM

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Report for today. I\'ve put one drop of AE/m on

my upper lip. It didn\'t change my mood today:) No reactions as well. So, I\'m now for sure that AE doesn\'t

work for me. But I still don\'t know why... Am I different from most of you or something like that?

<hr

/></blockquote>

It doesn\'t take much to make Keglius \"sure\" about something,

does it? These types of statements seem to represent blindingly exaggerated expectations for pheromones, regardless

of whether AE is right for him.

keglius

05-07-2004, 12:35 PM

zeu:

yeah, I\'ve tried just a few dabs... No reactions, neither on me, nor other people.

DST: well, you see... I

didn\'t expect anything really astonishing from pheros. I wanted to try them out. But I haven\'t seen ANYTHING!

Zero! Nada! There were no effects on me, my friends and other people, whom I don\'t know. So what should I believe

then? I can say \"oh, yeah, pheros work in a subtle way... but I just can\'t see that!\". I know that pheros

mostly work in a subtle way, but you could NOTICE DIFFERENCE, so you know that there was your phero product.
You

even report strange looks, hits and effects on yourself. However, I haven\'t seen anything... I haven\'t seen

any results with it. Many users, who tried AE/m, reported their hits mostly when they have started using it. There

were many hit reports from newbies who tried it and had successful results when used it for the first time. As I

said, I haven\'t received any hits, looks or something suspicious...So that\'s why I\'m saying that AE/m

doesn\'t work for me.

P.S: Sorry for my English, I\'m not a native speaker.

DrSmellThis

05-08-2004, 01:52 AM

It

takes time to tell, as well as experimentation. Some get attention right away, many don\'t. Plus, a lot depends on

your interactions with women in general. I\'m just saying this for the sake of other newbies. Everyone is affected

by pheromones, whether natural or artificial. These days there are many product choices, so most should find an

effect with something. And yes, effects are usually subtle, though not always.

zeu2003

05-08-2004, 09:29 AM

Maybe

it\'s your body chemistry... Did you try using them on clothes?

keglius

05-08-2004, 01:05 PM

Today

I\'ve tried using 4 dabs. Two under my ears and two spread on the neck. Nothing to report. However, yesterday I

and my buddy were hanging out with some girls. I\'ve put two drops of AE/m on my friend to see if there\'s any

difference. I was using 3 drops yesterday. We were walking through the park, the wind was very strong. So, suddenly

one girl said - hey, something smells really nice! She sniffed my buddy\'s neck and said - hey, I like you new

fragrance! What are you wearing ? ... So, I don\'t know if there was pheros, because we haven\'t seen anything

unusual yesterday except that compliment about my buddys\' cologne. I was wearing also AE/m, but that girl

haven\'t commented anything about my smell. Well, I think that this is just another prove that AE/m doesn\'t

work for me. I think that it doesn\'t suit my body chemistry... So, I\'m going to try NPA and SOE... We will see

if there will be any difference:)

I have tried just a few drops on my clothes, nothing to report. Maybe

I\'ll try a few more...