I have returned!! with a troubling question though

[manchorito]

ALLLright...I have returned to the Phero Forums. The reason I left was the pheros didn\'t

really work that much for me, but now I realize these forums are good for all other aspects of life.

My family

got this family shrink, and we got all our problems fixed out, but I stayed with him bymyself once a week to help

out with mine. I\'m not crazy or anything, it\'s just good to have someone straighten things out.

But I have

a problem with my friends. Again... There are two of them right now that I guess I concider my best friends. They

call me and always wana hang out, but they still treat me like [censored]. We all get drunk and its fun, But when

I\'m with them I get girls like crazy. But in the end, I don\'t get a relationship with a girl, and I\'m these

guys bitch.

But I haven\'t been being honest with my shrink, cuz I am kind of ashamed because of the alcohol.

Do you think that would help being honest. What do you think I should do if you were me, stop being with these

friends or what?

[CJ01]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
What do you think I should do if you

were me, stop being with these friends or what?


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> yes or get them to

treat you better (mones might help)but if that don´t work distance yourself from them.


CJ

[Elana]

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But I haven\'t been being honest

with my shrink, cuz I am kind of ashamed because of the alcohol. Do you think that would help being honest.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Ummmmm...........................YES!!!!

[CptKipling]

I would get my priorities straight.

If I had some friends who started treating me badly,

I\'d call them on it and tell them they are being wankers.

Do you really need a shrink to tell you that? Take

some responsibility for your life.

[CJ01]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[tallmacky]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
, but I stayed with him

bymyself once a week to help out with mine. I\'m not crazy or anything, it\'s just good to have someone

straighten things out.


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Did this shrink-man touch in you

funny places like your plato string, and your nutty nuts, did he play Napoleon \"The Conquerer\" all over your

body? \"I shall take over your ass! I shall seize your grand teenage boy ass!\".

I say that becuase if he

did then you would be lucky enough to have something to actually be worried about and complain. How are you going to

deal with real life, you know when people kno you die, you go bald, you break up with a girl/wife, maybe you go

broke who knows. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

....and now you are getting to hook up with

girls like crazy but now you are sad that there isn\'t a beautiful relationship which is long lasting. Do you even

want a relationship if so then stop kissing stupid drunk teenage girls at some \"cool\" kids party, and go get a

women with a bit more years on her, instead of playing \"Did you watch the OC last night?\" With dummies. You

wonder why those two guys treat you like [censored], probably because you come off acting like a weak overly

conerned bitch that will listen to what anyone says.

So if they say he Manchorito how about you buy us a

pizza \'cause you have money and junk, what do you do? I bet you run in the kitchen and dial up with your debit

card and order a fvcking pizza for them....there you go that\'s why they treat you like a ass diving bitch.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Why complain though you are using them to get with girls, I would

say just like months ago you keep on repeating the same [censored] and telling us, I doubt you really want to change

but you like making confessions?



.......and discuss all of this with your shrink, not sure why a 17

year old needs a shrink, no abuse, no touching games, no major problems? Tell your shrink everything, but if he

could not help you, this board can\'t, no one can. You are hopeless, becuase your problems are the easiest ones to

have in life all you have to do is just [censored] do it, simply just do it, its like writing your name on a piece

of paper, just [censored] write your name.........bitch. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

PS.

I doubt your shrink will care about your alcohol stuff, they hear much worse things, much worse, with people with

much worse problems. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Elana]

And all of that was for free! You don\'t need to see your shrink anymore. Just talk with Dr.

Tallmacky. You can\'t get advice any better than his.

[DrSmellThis]

Don\'t be a bitch.

[Elana]

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Don\'t be a bitch.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Yeah! There is not enough room for two of them on this forum. I was here

first.

[Icarus]

Kvak

[Sexyredhead]

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Kvak

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

My thoughts exactly.

[tallmacky]

Manchorito, maybe its girls that are the problem, do you like boys, more than friends? Its no

big deal anyhow.

[Elana]

Different strokes for different folks. That\'s what I always say. That will be $350.00

[manchorito]

WHOA WHOA, no. I mean that\'s okay for others, but I\'m straight, I just have trouble with

friends. There is nothing I love more than a Woman\'s flawless figure.

[tallmacky]

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WHOA WHOA, no. I mean

that\'s okay for others, but I\'m straight, I just have trouble with friends. There is nothing I love more than

a Woman\'s flawless figure.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Flawless figure, maybe its that how

hard are you shooting for the perfect girl? Is it really the girls who aren\'t working or you? If these girls

offered you a long term relationship would you take it?

Do you sometimes check out your frends that happen to be

boys flawless figures, ever watch them squeeze their tight glutes, and think about slipping them a digit....or two?

Or for fun do you guys go over to eachother\'s houses and play wrestling. Take off the shirts and whip out the

baby oil for Roman wrestling? Ever feel the need to dominate fully in one of your sadistic orgy like wrestling

matches? Manch its ok this is a pheromone forum, you can tell us. If I am off base I am sorry! I have been wearing

TE/M HEAT all day and it has turned me into an animal!

[tallmacky]

Just one other question, seriously. You ever have a sleep over at another friend\'s house,

and he doesn\'t have another bed, so you just sleep in the same bed at \"opposite ends\", but when you wake up

and you can barely open your mouth, and then realize it has been stuck shut by sticky man juice?

I have to

say that is weird but it seems to happen a lot.....some friends can act really weird, when you are not \"awake\"!

Ever happen Manch? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Gossamer_2701]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ROFFLMAO /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Elana]

What is funny about homosexuality? There is nothing wrong with the fact that he very well may be gay.

[Pancho1188]

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What is funny about

homosexuality? There is nothing wrong with the fact that he very well may be gay.

<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

And that\'s really none of our business, is it?

[Elana]

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</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
What is funny about homosexuality? There is nothing wrong with the fact that

he very well may be gay.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

And that\'s really none of our

business, is it?

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">No it is not Pancho, as we love you just the same

as before your thing with BB.

[Pancho1188]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
What is funny

about homosexuality? There is nothing wrong with the fact that he very well may be gay.

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

And that\'s really none of our business, is it?

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">No it is not Pancho, as we love you just the same as before your thing with

BB.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I was thinking about you the whole time, Elana...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Icarus]

Dude.

I had a friend just like you in Highschool... same problems, sam reactions, etc (not

identical, you understand, but it all seems to be leading the same way)

He\'s finally come to terms with

himself and is a happy bi-sexual male now. He\'s seemingly having a blast.

Don\'t worry too much about it

all.

[Bottle]

It starts of with that mutual respect thing...Admiring your friends is a good quality I feel...worthy

of an upstanding gentleman...nothing to be ashamed of IMHO

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
nothing to be ashamed of IMHO




<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Nothing at all. Just look in the mirror and say to yourself \"I

am here, I am queer, get used to it\".

[DrSmellThis]

We\'re all God\'s creatures. Loving more genders than most must be pleasing to Cupid.

[Pancho1188]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
nothing to be ashamed of IMHO


<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Nothing at all. Just look in the mirror and say to yourself \"I am here, I am queer, get used

to it\".


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The last person on earth who needs to be teased and

made fun of is the teenager who is confused about his social identity...

Seriously...

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
nothing to

be ashamed of IMHO


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Nothing at all. Just look in the mirror and

say to yourself \"I am here, I am queer, get used to it\".


<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

The last person on earth who needs to be teased and made fun of is the teenager who is confused

about his social identity...

Seriously...

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Manchorito

posts questions all of the time and NOT ONCE has he listened to a thing any of us said. It doesn\'t matter what

anyone says. He will keep acting like the shallow, spoiled brat that he is.

[DrSmellThis]

I think everyone is totally kidding, and that it is pretty obvious, but I could be wrong. I think

people are just having fun, and that it has nothing to do with Manchorito personally. Tallmacky\'s posts are

absurd, as usual, though they contained a grain of sincere advice!

So Manch, I sincerely apologize if I

offended you. Welcome back. Keep working honestly with the counselor, stand up for yourself always, and don\'t try

to drink so much. Listen to your body. Tell and show your friends you\'re not going to be anybody\'s bitch. If

they stop calling after that, [censored] \'em. But I think most of this advice was implicit in others\'

\"tongue in cheek\" (pun intended) comments.

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Tallmacky\'s posts are absurd,




<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

How dare you!! You feel competition because he is stinkier

and gives much better advice than you! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

insult the great

TM...hmfffffff /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Pancho1188]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
nothing to be ashamed of IMHO


<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Nothing at all. Just look in the mirror and say to yourself \"I am here,

I am queer, get used to it\".


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The last person on earth who

needs to be teased and made fun of is the teenager who is confused about his social

identity...

Seriously...

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Manchorito posts questions all of

the time and NOT ONCE has he listened to a thing any of us said. It doesn\'t matter what anyone says. He will keep

acting like the shallow, spoiled brat that he is.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

That may very

well be the truest thing ever spoken...but when is the last time anyone has taken someone else\'s advice on such

matters as relationships and social interactions? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hell, when

has a teenager ever listened to anything an adult has ever said?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I\'ve given up asking for advice a long time ago because I

know what the answer is and I know I can\'t do it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I\'ve

given up giving advice a long time ago because I know what the answer is and I know that they won\'t do it.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Elana]

So then what are so you concerned about, Pancho?
You said it yourself...he isn\'t listening to a

damn thing we say. Why not have some fun? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[DrSmellThis]

Well, OK, Elana, you called me on it. But I\'m tired of everyone worshipping tallmacky. It\'s

not fair! I mean, how much talent does it take to stop wiping for three months? I could have done that too, if I

wanted to. OK, I admit it. I was just afraid. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Damn you man of

courage!

[Bottle]

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class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

/>
</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
nothing to be ashamed of IMHO


<hr /></blockquote><font

class=\"post\">

Nothing at all. Just look in the mirror and say to yourself \"I am here, I am queer, get used

to it\".


<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

The last person on earth who needs to be teased and

made fun of is the teenager who is confused about his social identity...

Seriously...

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Manchorito posts questions all of the time and NOT ONCE has he listened to

a thing any of us said. It doesn\'t matter what anyone says. He will keep acting like the shallow, spoiled brat

that he is.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

That may very well be the truest thing ever

spoken...but when is the last time anyone has taken someone else\'s advice on such matters as relationships and

social interactions? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Hell, when has a teenager ever listened to

anything an adult has ever said? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I\'ve given up asking for

advice a long time ago because I know what the answer is and I know I can\'t do it.

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I\'ve given up giving advice a long time ago because I know

what the answer is and I know that they won\'t do it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I took some advice...I now have a friend

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Pancho1188]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
So then what are so you concerned

about, Pancho?
You said it yourself...he isn\'t listening to a damn thing we say. Why not have some fun?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I get that

it\'s all in jest, but joking about a confused teenager\'s sexuality isn\'t the way to go...

...and nobody

listens to advice, but everybody listens to insults...

...wait a second...

...if you really want to get

someone to take your advice, insult them...hmmm...

*Begin Dream Sequence*

\"Pancho, you big p*ssy!!! Quit

being a little b*tch, grow some f*cking balls, and ask that motherf*cker out!!!\"
(Cut to Pancho on the floor

crying his eyes out in the fetal position)

*End Dream Sequence*

Ummm...maybe not...

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
So then what are so you concerned about, Pancho?
You said it yourself...he

isn\'t listening to a damn thing we say. Why not have some fun? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I get that it\'s all in jest, but joking about a confused

teenager\'s sexuality isn\'t the way to go...

...and nobody listens to advice, but everybody listens to

insults...

...wait a second...

...if you really want to get someone to take your advice, insult

them...hmmm...

*Begin Dream Sequence*

\"Pancho, you big p*ssy!!! Quit being a little b*tch, grow some

f*cking balls, and ask that motherf*cker out!!!\"
(Cut to Pancho on the floor crying his eyes out in the fetal

position)

*End Dream Sequence*

Ummm...maybe not... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif



<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Pancho...it really doesn\'t matter that you are gay. We

seriously don\'t care. Stop stressing about it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
...and nobody listens to advice, but

everybody listens to insults...

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Telling someone that it is OK to

come out of the closet is an insult? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
We were very supportive

of you when you took that step.

[tallmacky]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Hell, when has a teenager ever

listened to anything an adult has ever said? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Well he is seeing an adult to talk to, a Proctologist or is that

Psychiatrist.

If Manch liked boys then he could easily get some ass, much easier then dealing with girls, I was

just asking him, and I was concerned about manch because I love him so much, he is such a sweet boy....with a sweet

ass, you shake it, givin\' me twinky fever!

Pancho I think a shrink would say you are using the defensive

mechanism of \"vicariousity\". Some of my words may have been able to make you think you were gay but they may not

have that effect on manchorito, besides the small head always beats the big head, so no matter what I say he will

still like what he is programmed to like. How many times have we had to slap disgusting child \"touchers\" on the

hand and tell them that was wrong, do they listen? Noooooooooo. Then I gots to get Tyrone the crackhead on the case!

[tallmacky]

....AND PANCHO! What are you doing talking on other threads, get back to the memoirs, I have actually

been reading them for awhile and I expect an update soon! So does half the forum....Are you going to ask out this

girl? What decision are you going to choose? Come on, I am tired of waiting for the answer! This is worse than Ross

and Rachel. Like totallly ohhh my gawd!!!!

seriously, I love your memoir\'s, get to writing!

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
Hell, when has a teenager ever listened to anything an adult has ever said?

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Well he is

seeing an adult to talk to, a Proctologist or is that Psychiatrist.

If Manch liked boys then he could easily get

some ass, much easier then dealing with girls, I was just asking him, and I was concerned about manch because I love

him so much, he is such a sweet boy....with a sweet ass, you shake it, givin\' me twinky fever!

Pancho I

think a shrink would say you are using the defensive mechanism of \"vicariousity\". Some of my words may have been

able to make you think you were gay but they may not have that effect on manchorito, besides the small head always

beats the big head, so no matter what I say he will still like what he is programmed to like. How many times have we

had to slap disgusting child \"touchers\" on the hand and tell them that was wrong, do they listen? Noooooooooo.

Then I gots to get Tyrone the crackhead on the case!

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

and DST

calls himself a doctor. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Gimme a break.
Fabulous Dr. Tallmacky!

Brilliant as always.

[DrSmellThis]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Elana]

</font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Did you know

about the defensive mechanism of \"vicariousity\"? I think not.

[Pancho1188]

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</font><blockquote><font

class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

<hr

/></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

Did you know about the defensive mechanism of \"vicariousity\"? I think

not.

<hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

I suffer from a major case of vicariousity (although

it\'d be vicariosity if it existed, I think)...yes, the guy who writes about his own stupidity day in and day out

needs to live through other people...

\"Sell crazy somewhere else...we\'re all stocked up here.\"



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

As for the rest of the conversation, it made me think of a good

quote:

Greg: Hey, hey if you\'d take a second and take those little sticks out of your head, clean your out

your ears, you would see I\'m just a person who has feelings and all I have to do is do what I want to do, and all

I want to do is hold onto my bag and not listen to you!
And the only way that I would ever let go of my bag would

be if you came over here right now and tried to pry it from my dead, lifeless fingers, okay? If you can get it from

my kung-fu grip, then you can come and have it, okay? Otherwise, step off, b*tch.


I have no problem with you

telling someone that it\'s okay to feel one way or another...I just don\'t think that you should be calling

someone gay when they clearly state that they are not gay and are going through the rough teenage years...it\'s

equivalent to calling a girl that age fat, ugly, and unpopular. I mean seriously, I think we\'re setting back the

civilized world like 10 years when if someone did something stupid you called them a

\"fag\"...seriously...\"joking\" doesn\'t make it okay...and being \"a teenager who asks the same questions

over and over again without listening to anything anyone says\" still doesn\'t deserve such an attack.

Yeah, I

can take a joke now...I slept with BBB and rode off on his motorcycle into the night or whatever...nice...but maybe

I would have been a hell of a lot more offended 7 years ago when I wasn\'t so secure and confident in myself as a

man, a human being, a straight male, etc...

But, as I said in my previous posts, no one ever listens to anything

anyone says, so I\'m just wasting my breath.

*sigh*

[Elana]

Pancho........zip it!
Stop lecturing us. We are goofing around. It is very annoying.

[Pancho1188]

Whatever.

[Icarus]

Kids can be cruel.

When I was at school, there was a kid called Rae.

There was a song:

\"Raeness is Gayness, and Gayness is Raeness and Raeness shows his Gayness by parading his Anus\"

I was,

unfortunately, not guilt-free in this debacle. I used to find it funny.

God only knows where Rae is now: and if

he truly was Gayness personified. To this day, I don\'t ever recall him parading his Anus.

We send them out

like arrows, somewhere, somehow, becoming rain.

Steve

[Elana]

We had something like that happen in my school to a girl named Kate.

Kate is straight, she is

always late but she is straight

Poor Kate /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif