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The good
news is that I found out what the bad news was. How\'s that for the glass being half full.
I just got my
Salivary Cortisol test results back. Looks like I got a bad case of Hypoadrenia, which explains a lot. My Cort
levels are just above 0 during the day and just above base line during the night. NOT GOOD. Going over the symptoms
it looks like I\'ve had it all my life but now, at my age, 102, with my Test levels dropping and Estro rising the
low Cortisol is really ripping me apart. Hypoglycemia, in particular, nocturnal Hypoglycemia, is doing most of the
damage. TM\'s fake dead cat Chester was attacking me in my dreams last night and I felt like death when I got up
this morning. But I digress. Anyway, my DHEA levels are WAY too high too. Which isn\'t good either. Well it would
be if I was 20. That probably explains why I want to rut all the time. Even more now than when I was 20 and I wanted
to rut a lot when I was 20.
I\'ll be doing a Test & Estro test next along with a couple other hormones. I
sent my samples to a place in Oregon. Really nice people and a very informative evaluation report was sent back to
me. You have to do a little work reading through the report and they can\'t make any recommendations.
www.salviatest.com (\"http://www.salviatest.com\") is the place. A full 8 hormone test is only $240.00
which is cheep compared to some and I would advise anyone, man or woman (but especially women), to do a test
starting at age 35 and each year after. If you get things balanced at 35 and keep them balanced you will live long
and prosper and you won\'t have nasty dreams about Chester eating your eyes out.
If anyone has any feedback for
me I\'d be grateful to hear it. I\'ve been doing lots of research as you can imagine. It\'s the nocturnal Hypo
that\'s got me bugged the most. Not only is it ripping me up but I can\'t get a handle on the direct connection
to the low Cort. Unless maybe it\'s some imbalance left over from the low Cort levels during the day. Any ideas?
Elana
04-20-2004, 12:04 PM
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TM\'s fake dead cat Chester was attacking me in
my dreams last night and I felt like death when I got up this morning.
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Now translate this post in English
What the hell is wrong
with you and how are you going to fix it?
Sexyredhead
04-20-2004, 12:17 PM
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TM\'s fake dead cat Chester was attacking me in my dreams last night and I
felt like death when I got up this morning.
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What the hell is wrong with you and how are you going to fix it?
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I\'m glad I\'m not the only one who didn\'t get most of this.
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TM\'s
fake dead cat Chester was attacking me in my dreams last night and I felt like death when I got up this morning.
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What the hell is wrong
with you and how are you going to fix it?
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I\'m glad I\'m not
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OK. Everybody needs to have Cortisol, a natural hormone the body
produces to control stress. If you don\'t have it your screwed. I don\'t have it. Not having it leads to a bunch
of problems. The list is long. Hypoadrenia is on the list. I have most of the problems on the list. The biggest one
for me right now is nocturnal hypoglycemia. My blood sugar drops so low during sleep that it\'s ripping me to
shreds. I wake up some mornings feeling like I\'ve gone a 100 rounds with Mike Tyson, or worse, Tallmacky\'s
fake dead cat Chester. Tallmacky doesn\'t have a cat. He\'s never had a cat but he told one of our members that
his cat \"Chester\" had died. I won\'t go into the reason TM told this tale except to say that his motives were
purely sexual. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif A few nights ago when my sugar was very low, I
dreamt about Macky\'s fake dead cat. It was not pleasant.
One of the reasons some(most?) of my posts come
across as if I were on a perpetual Acid trip is because, from a biochemical point of view, with my Cort levels and
sugar levels what they are, I AM on a perpetual Acid trip. It\'s kinda fun for the most part except when TM\'s
cat is giving me a bad time in my sleep. Also, if I don\'t get it fixed I\'m screwed.
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Sexyredhead
04-20-2004, 02:59 PM
Yes. That helps lots. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Now how do you fix it?
Sorry to
hear Ash. Well, I guess the doctor becomes your new best friend then..
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Get well soon
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Holmes
04-20-2004, 03:07 PM
Ash,
Isocort/Drenamin is a good place to start. I\'m tellin ya.
Holmes
Sorry to
hear that Ash, it sounds like hell. Have you never had cortisol your whole life?
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Yes. That helps lots.
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Now how do you fix it?
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Ash,
Isocort/Drenamin is a good place to
start. I\'m tellin ya.
Holmes
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I ordered the
Isocort off the site you linked me to a couple of weeks ago Dr. Holmes. Thanks again for the info. I was all set to
start taking it after I got my test results back. I didn\'t want to eat any before I knew for sure what my
Cortisol levels were. My Cort levels were what I expected them to be and the Isocort is the way to go with it except
for the news about my DHEA levels being so high. My DHEA is over the top to say the least. I\'m at levels that you
would expect to find in an Olympic athlete and if I start taking the Isocort that will boost my Cortisol up and that
may raise my DHEA even higher which I don\'t want to do cuz the high DHEA is adding to the nocturnal Hypo. problem
I\'ve got. Visits from TM\'s fake dead cat are no fun. I think its best for me now to try and figure out why my
DHEA is where it is and get it knocked down to where it should be for a person my age. Then I can deal with the
Cortisol which will also help with the night time Hypo. This whole thing is typical Ash. My life has always been
like a train full of chocolate bars going around a bend too fast on very hot day. Never a dull moment that\'s for
sure.
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Sorry to hear that Ash, it
sounds like hell. Have you never had cortisol your whole life?
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I\'m sure I\'ve always been way below normal in Cort levels. I\'ve always been
Hypoglycemic(probably caused by low Cort levels) and I\'ve always had Hypoadrenia. Hypoadrenia is basically
being stuck in a constant state of \"fight or flight\" which is what led me to this site. Funny how things work
out isn\'t it. I\'ve always pissed people off. Not by anything I\'ve done but by just being me. I was reading
something on the net last spring about certain natural Pheromone signatures pissing people off and I thought to
myself, hey, that\'s me. Next thing I knew I was buying mones from L-S to help me out. And they did and do.
Changing my natural signature by using mones has changed my life. It\'s great. People I come in contact with every
day love my little moned up ass where as before they just wanted to kick it. The cause of my natural signature is
that constant state of fight or flight I\'m in. If it hadn\'t been for this site and some of the threads and
people here I wouldn\'t have been able to put things together.
Apparently extreme stress is the cause of
low Cort levels and low Cort levels is the cause of Hypoadrenia and the reason for my fight or flight state of
being. My stress started in the crib. Literally. My parents should not have been allowed to procreate. The violence
and anger in my home when I was growing up was off the charts. My stressed out mone signature was set at a very
early age. Probably in the crib!
Believe it or not this is all good news for me. The pieces of the puzzle are
coming together and the solution is near. I\'ll get the DHEA figured out and then get the Cort levels where they
should be. After that it\'s balancing out the Testosterone and Estrogen levels. So its all good!
Ash have you
consulted a pro yet? Hormones aren´t to be messed with. I´d get a doc to help you rather than turn to self
medication, I mean that´s what those guys are there for right
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Extra DHEA is converted into female hormones (in women it´s
male hormones)so once you get the DHEA sorted the other hormones will also be at normal ratios again. I hope this
helps.
btw I don´t know what was wrong with your first post
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CJ
CptKipling
04-21-2004, 01:32 PM
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Extra DHEA is converted into female hormones (in
women it´s male hormones)so once you get the DHEA sorted the other hormones will also be at normal ratios again. I
hope this helps.
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Oh REALLY?
This is in fact, wrong. Some DHEA
converts into female hormones, but not all and not even most of it.
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Holmes
04-21-2004, 09:27 PM
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I mean that´s what those guys are there for
right
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In a world that makes sense, maybe.
Holmes
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Ash have you consulted a pro yet? Hormones aren´t
to be messed with. I´d get a doc to help you rather than turn to self medication, I mean that´s what those guys are
there for right /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Extra DHEA is converted into female hormones
(in women it´s male hormones)so once you get the DHEA sorted the other hormones will also be at normal ratios again.
I hope this helps.
btw I don´t know what was wrong with your first post
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CJ
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CJ,
I haven\'t consulted with a Dr. yet. I\'d love to but it\'s hard to do on my
Island. No Endocrinologists at all and the regular Dr\'s here are a little dangerous. One of them killed my
neighbor and very close friend a couple of years ago. Put her on Cumiden after a very minor stroke and never did a
follow up on her blood levels afterward. The dosage was too high and she died six months later from internal
bleeding.
I\'ve had this problem all my life and have been doing hard battle trying to figure it out for the
past 13 years. I\'ve seen about 20 Dr\'s during those 13 years and nobody has figured it out. If I see an
Endocrinologist right now they will make me do another test because they won\'t trust the test I took/didn\'t
make any $ on it, and then they will put me on Hydrocortisone. After 30 days they will test me again/make more $ on
the test, and either increase or decrease the dosage depending on the test results. I can do all that myself. I have
a good brain and I\'m reading the same papers and studies they are. It might sound stupid but I trust me more than
I trust most Dr\'s. I have a vested interest in my health. They don\'t.
On the good news front, the good
people on L-S have come through again.
From the \"Why topical DHEA *could* work\" thread bumped up yesterday
by Cptkipling:
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Meaning, when it occurs in high
amounts in sebacious glands, it can be displaced only by DHT, which may then be converted, or may be intself a
pheromone. Afterall, DHT and rone look almost exactly the same , just with 2 protons moved from one place to
another(no joke).
The DHEA thing may yet have some merit.
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How cool is that? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Rone also looks close enough to DHEA
to show up as DHEA on my test. So now I start my Isocort and no more mones for the next month until I retest and see
what my levels are then. If the Isocort increases my Cort levels enough I should see some improvement with my
Hypoglycemia within a week and no more visits from TM\'s fake dead cat Chester. I\'m a very happy fellow
tonight!
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