View Full Version : Pheromones and Police Dogs
InternationalPlayboy
04-17-2004, 02:44 PM
In another thread, Oscar wrote:
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CK,
Having
done a brief search on \"Androsterol\", I came up with more instances where it was referenced as a botanical
compound than anything else. For instance it\'s found in several varieties of Dogbane, Hemps, and even in
Dandelions.
Still confused! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Oscar
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That brings
up a question I\'ve had for awhile. Along the interstate towards both Phoenix and San Diego, they have Border
Patrol checkpoints. When I went to Phoenix in March, they had a dog standing right next to the road while the line
slowly moved past. The cars in front of me stopped and my trunk was right in front of the dog. I don\'t know how
much that was for intimidation and how sensitive a dog\'s sense of smell is, but I understand it is pretty good. I
don\'t know if the dog was for finding hidden people, explosives, drugs, or all three. I\'ve been told that a
dog\'s job is specialized, that is he is either an explosives dog or a drug dog, but not both. But I can\'t see
any reason why he can\'t be trained to find more than one type of contraband.
My question is, if I\'m
carrying mones in my car and go through this situation again, is the dog going to react to the mones and inconvience
me by triggering a search of my car and my having to explain these chemicals?
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I was once cornered by a police dog that was a neighbor\'s
pet/work dog when I was a teenage hippie in the 70s and they make me uneasy to this day. Even though I may be as
pure as the driven snow nowadays.
DrSmellThis
04-17-2004, 09:02 PM
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In another thread, Oscar
wrote:
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CK,
Having done a brief search on
\"Androsterol\", I came up with more instances where it was referenced as a botanical compound than anything else.
For instance it\'s found in several varieties of Dogbane, Hemps, and even in Dandelions.
Still confused!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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That brings up a question I\'ve had for awhile. Along the
interstate towards both Phoenix and San Diego, they have Border Patrol checkpoints. When I went to Phoenix in March,
they had a dog standing right next to the road while the line slowly moved past. The cars in front of me stopped and
my trunk was right in front of the dog. I don\'t know how much that was for intimidation and how sensitive a
dog\'s sense of smell is, but I understand it is pretty good. I don\'t know if the dog was for finding hidden
people, explosives, drugs, or all three. I\'ve been told that a dog\'s job is specialized, that is he is either
an explosives dog or a drug dog, but not both. But I can\'t see any reason why he can\'t be trained to find more
than one type of contraband.
My question is, if I\'m carrying mones in my car and go through this situation
again, is the dog going to react to the mones and inconvience me by triggering a search of my car and my having to
explain these chemicals? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I was once cornered by a police
dog that was a neighbor\'s pet/work dog when I was a teenage hippie in the 70s and they make me uneasy to this
day. Even though I may be as pure as the driven snow nowadays.
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In general dogs have been friendly and/or respectful to me while sportin\' mones, which makes
sense. -Mones are so natural to a dog, and so common, it would be difficult to train them to respond to them as
something out of the ordinary. Every living thing has them. Cops, the -none-filled creatures that they are, might be
self-defeating to train them to attack mones, which would be purposeless anyway, as mone users are hardly prominent
public enemies. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Hungry
04-17-2004, 11:03 PM
I\'ve
had police dogs walk straight past me while wearing \'mones, displaying only a momentary flicker of interest.
Police dogs are usually very well trained, and will probably only react to what they\'re supposed to react
to.
Hungry
bundyburger
04-18-2004, 03:18 PM
As
the Doc said, -mones are common. With the amount we wear here, I can see a dog holding his breath now as you drive
past. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
DrSmellThis
04-18-2004, 03:44 PM
The
police dog will hump you.
Holmes
04-18-2004, 03:54 PM
So will
the police.
Holmes
Rakesh
04-19-2004, 05:41 AM
Drug dogs
are trained to look for other compounds than the -nol, theres actually very very little of it in hemp. There are
other, more aromatic substances there (easily smellable by humans as well) that they react to.
belgareth
04-19-2004, 05:47 AM
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As the Doc said, -mones are common. With the amount we wear here, I can see a
dog holding his breath now as you drive past. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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If we used,those perfumes that were made of \"animal pheros\",what would
happen ?(i heard there were some products with animal pheros)
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Depends on which animal pheromones you used. I keep getting this mental image of a porcine riot
breaking out at the local livestock show when some poor soul inadvertantly wears pig pheromones.
oscar
04-19-2004, 10:38 AM
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In another thread, Oscar
wrote:
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CK,
Having done a brief search on
\"Androsterol\", I came up with more instances where it was referenced as a botanical compound than anything else.
For instance it\'s found in several varieties of Dogbane, Hemps, and even in Dandelions.
Still confused!
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Oscar /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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That brings up a question I\'ve had for awhile. Along the
interstate towards both Phoenix and San Diego, they have Border Patrol checkpoints. When I went to Phoenix in March,
they had a dog standing right next to the road while the line slowly moved past. The cars in front of me stopped and
my trunk was right in front of the dog. I don\'t know how much that was for intimidation and how sensitive a
dog\'s sense of smell is, but I understand it is pretty good. I don\'t know if the dog was for finding hidden
people, explosives, drugs, or all three. I\'ve been told that a dog\'s job is specialized, that is he is either
an explosives dog or a drug dog, but not both. But I can\'t see any reason why he can\'t be trained to find more
than one type of contraband.
My question is, if I\'m carrying mones in my car and go through this situation
again, is the dog going to react to the mones and inconvience me by triggering a search of my car and my having to
explain these chemicals? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I was once cornered by a police
dog that was a neighbor\'s pet/work dog when I was a teenage hippie in the 70s and they make me uneasy to this
day. Even though I may be as pure as the driven snow nowadays.
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IP,
It\'s worth mentioning that the compound \"AndrosteROL\" that I was talking
about in that other thread, is NOT a listed ingredient in any of the products currently sold on Love-Scent\'s site
or any other reliable phero site I could find.
What I COULD find out about it was that it\'s a component of
\"boar saliva\", a botanical compound found in those plants I had mentioned above, and a substance tested by M.
McClintock in the study that DST\'s link referenced.
The only place that I can find where it is mentioned as an
ingredient of a phero product for human use is on pheromoneoil\'s website where it is ERRONEOUSLY listed as one of
the ingredients of the \"Pherogel\" group of gel-pack products (Pherogel, Allure, and Charisma).
The Pherogel
formulae mimic those of the AE\'s.
At any rate, I would suppose that your average drug-sniffing dog would be
trained to be more attuned to THC than Androsterol or any of the other seemingly incidental components found in the
hemp products. If Androsterol were one of the compounds that alerted them, they\'d go apesh!t every time they came
across a dandelion! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Not to worry!
Oscar
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InternationalPlayboy
04-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Thanks for pointing that out Oscar, I guess I need to memorize the reference material, I\'m still
getting my -ols mixed up. I\'m getting pretty familiar of what the effect of certain products are supposed to be,
but still don\'t have the ingredients straight.
I should have realized that the dogs would be trained to find
the THC or the obvious scents that pot has. But like I said, police dogs make me paranoid.
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